Many Norwich City supporters felt Hull City had paid an inflated fee for Robert Snodgrass this summer – and now it seems Tigers boss Steve Bruce agrees.

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Bruce enjoyed great success in the domestic market last summer with Curtis Davies (£2.25million) and Tom Huddlestone (£5.25million) proving particularly good value.

But having established themselves for a second year in the Barclays Premier League, as well as earning a Europa League qualifying spot 
courtesy of their run to the FA Cup final, Hull are finding it harder to strike a deal this time around.

Instead, they have been forced to pay big money for British players including Snodgrass and Jake Livermore, who cost a combined £15m, with more to come when the Tom Ince tribunal is concluded.

Bruce says he is aware their continental counterparts would be priced more competitively but does not yet have the scouting network to gamble.

“There’s the problem in our game. You identify a young English lad but you can get a player from overseas for half the price,” Bruce told the Hull Daily Mail during the Tigers’ warm-weather training camp in Portugal.

“If I can buy in our market I always will. You pay a premium for a young British player and that’s what we’ve done.

“We’ve got a 22-year-old, a 24-year-old and a 26-year-old (Snodgrass). It’s cost us more money but I would expect that. You know what you’re going to get.”

City’s player-of-the-season joined Hull at the end of last month, signing a three-year deal with the Humberside club.

After 12 Premier League goals in 67 top-flight appearances for Norwich following his move from Leeds in July 2012, the Scotland international was expected to go for a lower fee as he only had a year remaining on his contract.

But Bruce decided to force through the move with his club’s Premier League riches – although he hopes he will not always have to stick with the same transfer tactics.

“There’ll come a time when I know what I’m going to get from the foreign market and hopefully we can get that set up in the next 12 months,” he added.

Bruce is looking to add another British signing before the season gets under way, but admits his long-term pursuit of Tottenham captain Michael Dawson is floundering.

Bruce is reported as saying talks with Tottenham have hit a “stalemate”.

46 comments

  • Pint of twos. Memories. The best mild in Norwich was Morgan`s. S&P the best bitter. The rest was a load of Bullard`s.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, July 18, 2014

  • Now getting a little concerned about the obsession with Ms Kirkwoods assests. Ridge of high pressure etc! Clearly you are a lot younger than I, or you would realise the risk you run! PS - have posted on the "Seb has a future again, it' so hard to keep up with the butterfly mentality. A thought crossed my mind whilst devilling some kidneys earlier this evening......... Since the silence from Carrow Road is so deafening, perhaps if we all added a recipe to the bottom of posts Delian might be tempted into conversation, who knows, all may be revealed.

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    Igno Rance

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • At least we all seem to agree that the departure of Dr Snoddy may bring some harmony into the Tanochbrae City midfield.

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    Swiss Canary

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Hear! hear! Igno... I`m still more concerned that we may lose la Kirkwood`s treasured Chest. Great picture in a Daily paper recently, showing a train in Scotland with a picture of Salmond splattered along its flank. Trouble was, somebody had opened a door and the Slogan read "Lying Scotsman". Brilliant.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Here here to the robbery and many thanks for the slashing advice Mr. Brewer

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    Igno Rance

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • malaga, it`s been a while since Gloucester won the title, hasn`t it? Though they were robbed of it a while back by that 4 team play-off nonsense.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • M_Y; if F@ty Salmond has his way, the English will no longer be considered British. I`m more concerned about losing that wondrous weather-woman, Carol Kirkwood. Everybody needs a b0som for a pillow, and you can`t get them at the Corner Shop any more. We`ll never see warm fronts the like of those again.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Igno Rance, I have advised SO many people of this fact: Forwardslash does not work. Back\slash does. So, too, Vertical|slash.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • As an old Northamptonian I have to agree with the comments about the English Premiership Rugby. The team that wins the league has shown over a season it is the best. But to then ask it to play a one-off "cuptie" game against the runner-up is just stupid - but of course it is done purely for the money. So Gloucester won the league last season by a country mile yet Northampton Saints managed to beat them in the final seconds of a play-off. Thank goodness the football league in England restricts play-offs to one final promotion place. Back to football and to the usual inquests about our latest international failure, I heard Rooney saying without a hint of irony the problem is that we need to become nastier. Actually it we need to get better at football, Wayne! It has also bee said many times that our failure results in too many overseas players in the Premiership. However if you looked at the English team in Brazil most of them play in that league! Finally to the main event, Norwich City! The clips from the Braintree game gave me some feeling of hope in as much that not only did we score some goals but that we appeared to pass and move the ball well and there was a pace to some of our play when we broke which we never saw last season. The indications are that at least Adams is determined to get them to play a more creative and adventurous game. My remaining worry, however, is the still unresolved situation regarding the make-up of the squad. Who will stay, who will go, who will we bring in? Time is ticking by....

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Despite paying over the odds Bruce also seems to have overlooked the fact that once the ginger people of Scotland vote for independence Snodders will no longer be considered British.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • I give in, my forward slash appears to have died!

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    Igno Rance

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Typo...".... That should read 74 not 74.

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    Igno Rance

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Sky Bet are offering 74 on Grant Holt to return to Norwich! Now there's a thought!

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    Igno Rance

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • .....Going back I bit further!....A pint of 'TWOS' was most popular in an S&P pub-- Mild & bitter! and around Xmas for a special treat was a 'Barley Wine', and a Hamlet!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Mr. Brewer,completely concur with your earlier comments regarding Wolf, Green Jack and Woodfordes, although with the latter I find the bitter a little sweet for my taste and much prefer Nelson's Revenge. Have never imbibed liquid razor wire so can only suggest a change of pub! In my old local the Adnams is straight from the barrel, crystal clear and as smooth as silk. As to Tally Ho, my advice is that it should only be drunk on Boxing Day and even then, only in a seated position! Do you remember the old Athenian (or was it Isthmian ) league? My grandfather used to take me to watch his beloved Rebels play. They had a young centre half by the name of Mickey Droy, perhaps NCFC could do with a latter day version? They also (briefly) had a centre forward named Peter Osgood............ Hey Ho.

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    Igno Rance

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Brew - have you ever had a decent pint of Adnams Southwold bitter ? I haven't. In fact it is in my top twenty of worst pints consumed. The particular culprit was served at the Woolpack, by the EDP, a couple of years back.

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    Steely Dan

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • I'm not so sure that having a lot of forgien players is the main reason the national team keeps failing. Where there that many forgieners in the top division between 1970 and 1994? Yet the 86 World Cup was our only descent one since 66. I think the lack of quality football academies is more the problem . We need to replicate the systems used in Germany, Netherlands and France etc... If we are ever going to get anywhere.

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    pug

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Nice one, Igno. Many moons ago, I took my dear old dad to visit Adnams. As part of the Brewing Clique of Suffolk in those days, I was given privileged status by the then Head Brewer. After a tour of the brewery, the inevitable visit to the subterranean gated sample room. As I was driving, I had to make do with mild. Dad was able to neck a fair aliquot of `Tally Ho` (I think) a barley wine almost as potent as Dubai Canary`s Pollyanna Potion, and only sold in one-third pint measures. if my local has run out of Ghost Ship, I find a 50\50 blend of Broadside & Bitter tolerable, just. The Bitter on its own is akin to drinking liquid razor wire..

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Mother-in-law is a combination of half Old Ale and half Adnams bitter.. I.e old and bitter, hence mother-in-law.

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    Igno Rance

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • There`s a small world, Igno. An old pal of mine from the 60\70s Watney`s days is a Cloucester RUFC supporter. I got him to explain the logic of the team that came top of the table had to get involved in a play-off for the title they`d already `won`. I think it was Saracens\Northampton in the Final this year? Cannot recall. Crazy system. My pal cynically dismisses it as a way of wringing a bit more cash out of the fans\sponsors etc. Is `mother in law` a euphemism for an Adman`s product? The only one I find remotely palatable is `Ghost Ship` and as the only `Real Ale` pub locally is Adman`s, I`ve conditioned myself to `like` it. A Pavlovian incentive system based on a photograph of Carol Kirkwood stuck to the bottom of the glass, so when it`s empty.... I genuinely liked Adman`s up to the mid 90s, but find it very harsh and one-dimensional these days. Often as not, flat as a witch`s *i*, too. Round these parts, Woodforde`s, Wolf and Green Jack are the pick of the bunch IMHO. I see Wetherspoon`s have named their new Lowestoft pub The Joseph Conrad. Full marks to their local history dept! Dreadful pub. Akin to a giant Gregg`s. More munching of all-day Cholesterfestburgers than imbibing of beer. Yet there`s a McDonald`s speciality Grease Parlour just across the road. I suppose JDW is a bit more up-market? In the old days, before smoking became universally reviled, one left a pub reeking of tobacco smoke. Now it`s the subtle, lingering perfume of beefburgers, grease and chip-oil.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, July 17, 2014

  • Mr. Brewer please don't get me started on the EPL rugby title arrangements, I'm still getting over Gloucester winning the league by some 15 points and somehow not ending up as champions! As to my in depth knowledge, bow not, the only depth I can claim is in the supping department. I look forward the winter months when once again I can sink a few pints of "mother-in-law" in my favourite Adnams hostelry.

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    Igno Rance

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • KERRCHING ! LOL . .O.T.B.C.

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    yarco

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Malaga agree with what you say. In fact after a reasonably entertaining WC competition the thought of watching any EPL football fills me with dread. Already the press and pundits have forgotten England's failures. I heard Phil 'insomnia cure' Neville say yesterday that our younger players will have gained valuable experience and can go on to win the European Championship. Talksport were asking their listeners if Messi can be compared with the all time greats, Pele, Maradona and Rooney.

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    Steely Dan

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • 7 and a bit million for a winger who will score 8+ goals in todays market place is good business, all Hull's business is for proven players around the Premiership, unlike the money spent by Norwich for unproved players, Good Luck to Bruce, we'll see you next year when we join them back in the Premiership..OTBC

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    OLDYELLA

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Surely nothing as crazy as the way the EPL Rugby Title is decided. Watney`s had several breweries in the `70s. At least 5 of them produced good cask beer. Anyway, I bow to your in-depth knowledge of brewing. Enjoy your bowels.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Steve Bruce is only now finding out what numbers of us here said at the time of the sale! I wonder if we are starting to see the first signs of cracks appearing in the over-filled jug that is the Premier League? No longer are any of the very best of the world's players coming into that league. Instead they are opting to either stay where they are or joining the ranks of top clubs in Italy, Germany and Spain. Sky also appears to be spreading its wings with Sky Sports Five which will be majoring on top European league football this season. However in some areas the money machine still keeps cranking up with Man U announcing a sponsorship deal that would keep any non-Premiership English club in clover for a lifetime! The sad fact about the Prem is that the elite clubs dominate and take all the prizes while the rest either just make up the numbers or at worst, like Norwich, have to fight for survival.

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    malaga flier

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • What a grotty picture of Mr Sodgrass with a shelf passing through his head ...... a shelfish player???

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    LR Series 2A

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Mr. Brewer, that was perfectly fine. One minor rant if you'll indulge. Is there anyone out there who abhors the play-off system as much as do I ? You play forty odd games a season, finish in a given position which, for four of you is then ignored and you enter a "cup" competition for one place. Surely it would be altogether fairer to say "if you finish in the top three.......promotion. If you finish in the bottom three......relegation. Or perhaps the bottom two relegated and the next four play off for the remaining place! That way, almost everyone who had achieved nothing all season would get theirs out in the post season trough! Rant over. PS your mission in life, whilst laudable, has some way to go to convince me on the Red Barrel issue. Must stop, off to bowls now!

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    Igno Rance

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Igno, the Seb has a future page has no grovelling apology - and there`s no need! Many people, not in the inner circle of brewing, make the `Red\Red Barrel` error. It is my mission in life to put the record straight. Was that all right apart from the dries?

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Good point from Trucker. Dear old Brucie may be a good ol` boi, but he`s no Einstein. Doing joined together thoughts even in the same sentence is a synapse too far. But he`s happy, chubby and relatively well off. Bless.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Oh how depressing!! ;) I was looking at it with the view of "august aint far away"

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • only 3.5 weeks of no football and rumour to go

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Agree pal. Said it before last season even started but I thought we did some amazing transfer business last summer. Sadly we had the wrong manager who had zero idea of how to use the players he signed. Get the feeling Bruce knows what hes doing a little more than poor Chrissy did last year. I cant imagine Bruce playing Long up top an simply hoofing the ball to him on the half way line. He will play to his strengths or his wont play him. Simple. :)

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Mattias - you make an apt comparison to us in regards to overpaying for some players - like RVW, and maybe Hooper. But he also brought us Olsson, Fer, and Redmond who may turn out to be bargains when it's all said and done. Hopefully we can retain those three long enough to find out.

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    NorthCarolinaCanary

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Totally get what Lincs was saying, but even if you decide to sell your soul and accept a rich owner coming in, it doesn't get you much of an advantage these days (like it would in the past). Just helps you keep up with the others who are doing the same thing. We did extremely well without such backing.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • There are two quotes in this article that interest me.“If I can buy in our market I always will. You pay a premium for a young British player and that’s what we’ve done." AND “There’ll come a time when I know what I’m going to get from the foreign market and hopefully we can get that set up in the next 12 months,” Contradictory sentences but relevant I believe to the national team's (mis)fortunes. Steve Bruce came to Norwich as a lower league player from Gillingham, became a NCFC hero and moved on to MUFC and had a great career. If the foreign players were available then would he have had a chance? Foreign owners and managers don't care about the English national team, they just want success at any price. So well done Steve Bruce on your British signings and good luck in the Prem this season.

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    Trucker

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Agree with Dubai and DerekMcD on the evils of the PL. Until the PL implodes however one is left with the dilemma of whether you want a rich benefactor to come in and buy success or carry on looking to produce a silk purse from a sow's ear.

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    Lincs Canary

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Given the vast amounts of money thrown at clubs by Sky and similar television broadcasters, I do not think Snodgrass was overpriced. At least the money spent on him will go back into the English game rather that other countries throughout the world. As long as we continue to spend that money buying other English players then we will continue with the right trend as far as I am concerned. I still think Snodgrass used correctly will be a great asset to any club but fear Hull may not get the best out of him as they already have a couple of other decent midfielders in Huddlestone & Livermore. For me Huddlestone should have been picked for England by the way.

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    TrevorKeith

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • They remind me of someone else. Did brilliant to survive and then pushed the boat well and truly out signing very over priced players.......surely they won't do.....a hughton.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Nothing against Brucie (who can ever forget his headed goal against 1p5wich in the League Cup Semi Final) but I do think Hull are flattering to deceive. They had a great season but I think it will be very much more difficult for them to stay up this year. Anyway, lets hope that England's dismal World Cup performance - balanced against Germany's success will expose some of the evils of the Premier League and we will see some common sense prevail. The PL is becoming a circus, so not being part of it may not necessarily be a bad thing for now. OTBC

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    Dubai Canary

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Just shows you how daft the Premier League is getting, inflated transfer fees and even more inflated wages. Not a pretty game anymore

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    Derek McDonald

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Nice motivational speech for his over valued players to live up to. Must make them feel great.

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    JB

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Commendable candour from Mr Bruce. I suspect nobody will worry too much about the money if his overpriced home grown contingent manage to keep him I'm the prem! PS Mr Brewer, have posted a grovelling apology re Watneys on the Seb has a future page..........

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    Igno Rance

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Hi, Uncle Stew. Brucie is too open for his own good. He already had something of a reputation for being profligate with cash. All good if he succeeds, but if things go pear-shaped (!) on him, his masters will be unforgiving. Excellent bit of business by NCFC, it has to be said.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • Commented on the Braintree board before this appeared on-screen. Interesting that Brucie would rather pay a Premium for British players while he feels his scouting system is not strong enough to guarantee he knows what he might be getting abroad. A Premium for `certainty`. Not sure he`s right, though. As others have said, there are gems to be mined in this country. We dug up the Great Holty. Maybe Grabban & Lafferty could prove similar. Plus we have young talent like Loza, the Murphys and Redmond. Just need quality coaching now.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

  • ….. You had your eyes wide open Mr Bruce I feel sure that having paid that having paid 'over the odds' for Snodgrass, you will get more than you bargained for!.....My thoughts are with that young lad Ince who has just jumped into the Tigers Den with Hull....He will be in the middle of the ego battle that will occur between Huddlestone, Livermore, and Snodgrass.!...…

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

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