Norwich City still have no answer to the most pressing question

Norwich City's Robert Snodgrass and Gary Hooper see another chance go begging in a 2-1 Premier League defeat at Cardiff. Picture by Tom Smith/Focus Images Norwich City's Robert Snodgrass and Gary Hooper see another chance go begging in a 2-1 Premier League defeat at Cardiff. Picture by Tom Smith/Focus Images

Monday, February 3, 2014
8:15 AM

The surreal nature of this damaging Premier League defeat fails to mask Norwich City’s enduring problem.

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"All the interminable debates and contradictory views stirred by City’s sparse productivity fail to conceal the harsh reality; Norwich spent millions of pounds last summer to address a glaring deficiency to their play but they are no further forward."

Paddy Davitt

It is not about playing two strikers or a certain formation or even recalling the cause célèbre that is Wes Hoolahan after a frankly wearisome transfer saga where neither party emerged truly victorious or with their reputation enhanced. They are all symptoms of a much wider malaise; one that is scarring the Canaries’ bid to secure a fourth consecutive season of top flight football. Cardiff keeper David Marshall was defiant yet again facing his old club and it is no stretch of the imagination to state he has cost Norwich five league points this season with a string of quality saves. But, as his manager Ole Gunnar Solksjaer put it rather succinctly after helping earn the Norwegian an improbable first league win, that is what Marshall is there to do.

Norwich must expect excellence every week, no matter the hue of the opponent; whether it is the struggling Bluebirds, who kicked off bottom of the pile, or Manchester City, who will arrive at Carrow Road this weekend top if they overcome Chelsea on home soil this evening.

That is why the Premier League is an alluring prospect. Why Norwich City were keen to join such an exclusive club and desperate to stay in it. The Premier League’s financial power attracts prime talent from here and right around the globe.

Norwich must look deep within rather than project outwards for the reasons they were unable to overcome a team who had not won a league game in seven matches.

Both Hughton himself and the squad he has melded have had their collective character routinely tested at various points of this most trying of campaigns, but a loss in such bizarre circumstances triggers more pertinent questions about a lack of self-belief or the ruthless streak required to punish teams when they are in the ascendancy.

Norwich’s goal ratio this Premier League season is dire. Norwich’s chance conversion, just in the abbreivated sample of two league contests against Cardiff, is embarrassing. That is not solely down to the strikers, although the sharpest focus will inevitably centre on those at the top end of the pitch.

All the interminable debates and contradictory views stirred by City’s sparse productivity do not conceal the harsh reality; Norwich spent millions of pounds last summer to address a glaring deficiency to their play but they are no further forward in efforts to embellish defensive resolution with attacking potency. No other conclusion can be drawn this far into the season and what occurred at the Cardiff City stadium offered painful fresh circumstantial evidence.

Hughton will again earn his share of criticism after Norwich contrived to squander a victory that was comfortably within their grasp before they imploded in such graphic fashion, but few dissenting voices would have objected to his decision to separate Gary Hooper and Ricky van Wolfswinkel.

Both possess goalscoring pedigree but the coupling has singularly failed to produce any real dividend so far. It is an experiment which too often saw the duo dropping deep to further over-populate congested midfield areas or else find themselves cut off as slick opponents like Everton and Newcastle made the most of their numerical advantage in the central channels of the pitch.

Hooper’s most prolific spell came when he was deployed at the point of Norwich’s attack with Johan Elmander offering chief support and a vital link to the Canaries’ midfield.

City’s tactical shape in Wales gave them a counter-punching thrust which had nullified Cardiff in the opening period and should have brought more reward than Robert Snodgrass’ early opener. Hooper was far from an isolated figure when Norwich did frequently raid, with Russell Martin, Snodgrass and Bradley Johnson all prominent in the final third.

But the manner of their capitulation was deeply troubling and it is naïve in the extreme to suggest Hughton and his players would not have expected a strong response immediately after the interval.

Wilfried Zaha pounced on Hooper’s square pass across his own penalty area and Craig Bellamy did the rest. Kenwyne Jones lashed home barely a minute later and the damage was effectively done. Norwich rallied in a final quarter laced with a sense of desperation that brought a string of clear-cut chances, but Marshall’s obduracy allied to the visitors’ lack of precision merely sparked anger and incredulity at the final whistle.

Manchester City is the last opponent Hughton or his players would pick to try and prove their Premier League credentials this coming weekend, but each fresh inconsistent episode contracts the club’s margin for error.

Much has been made of a devilish Premier League fixture finale, but the Canaries face seven of the clubs in the bottom half before then.

To focus solely on the number of hurdles left or the quality of the opponents is to overlook the real issue that remains unresolved despite many millions and many hours on the training field. This group of players have now scored more than once on just two Premier League occasions since that distant opening day draw against Everton.

108 comments

  • Hey Brew , Divott and Bailey a firm of local lawyers that you can trust. You know, just like politicians, and bankers , and ; i hate to say it directors of big breweries, who take\took over small brewers, promised the earth and delivered starlight

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Have no illusion, we are in serious, serious trouble. I've been optimistic, but am now failing to see where we can collect the points we need as we appear to be unable to hold on to a single goal lead. We score, then sit back, letting the opposition attack us only for us to make a defensive mistake and allow them back into the game. For a team that is set up to defend, the number of mistakes that we are making is unacceptable, and is costing us matches. Instead of defending, players simply try to get in the attackers way, instead of commiting to a challenge. Additionally, there have been ONLY TWO Premiership games in which we have scored more than one goal this season - v West Ham on Nov. 9th, and v Everton in the first game of the season. These two issues combine do not bode well for our survival prospects.

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    Eddie

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I honestly think we will be relegated. No team spirit, no understanding, not a clue. How can a team not be able to score goals? That's the whole point of the game. Sunderland and Palace have picked up really well. Looks like Cardiff, Norwich and Fulham for the drop to me. Then another major rebuilding job.

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    Henry

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Extremely good point Mellow Yellow. When a teams doing bad, need a vital win or a morale boasting victory were the team they always seem to beat. I know Newcastle didnt beat us but last tuesday was the first time in a very long time i've seen a team come to our place and totally dominate us....then a few days later they go and get totally humbled. Another pattern ive noticed is teams seem to brush us aside easily, sneak a win or play us off the park, then go back to there usual standards following playing us. Fulham for example. Getting very frustrating.

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    Mattias333

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I'm with Konrad on this. Behind after 50 minutes, CH waited a further 25 mins before putting on 3 subs for 15 mins. With 24 points from as many games, Man City next week and the 'final four', we need 16 points from the 9 winnable remaining games. Sorry, but I can't see it with CH. The board should act now (I cannot believe DM is not up to speed with successors) and ramp up for the W Ham game, for whom Andy Carroll will be suspended.

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    islander

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Dubai, we`re playing ManC at Carrow Road. It`s a Home game. Keep taking the Happy Pils! ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • Spot on, Powers. I saw more energy, fun, joy, intelligence and warmth in a brief glimpse of Solksjaer`s face than I`ve seen from Hughton in 18 months. I think I saw CH `smile` in a sly way when answering questions about the transfer window, but it was utterly cod-eyed and humourless. More a sarcastic smirk.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • .....Hi Archie....if you are not going to use my comments,would you please return to sender!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Half time MC v Chelski. Is our team really in the same league system as these two? Wes would fit in this game a treat. Straight swop VW for Torres or Ba?

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    Yellowfirebird

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Willb - a bit of chicken and egg about your posting. Does a failing team get booed or does booing produce a failing team? I get the impression at the moment we're a failing team anyway and if anything some of the criticism i.e, snods last week can have a positive impact. I'm not normally a booer but as a supporter I reserve the right when I think it is justified.

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Citys two problems are at the back. Russ Martin who has given City stirling service in the past is no longer up to the job. He is slow and backs off until he is halfway over the goal line, he was partly to blame for both goals on Saturday but too many fans and Hughton do not realise he is not up to speed within the Premiership. The other player is John Ruddy who seems to be getting played on his long past brilliance which has faded. He is letting in goals that Bunn would have saved, Unfortunatelly he can not be replaced by Bunn as Bunn is not tall enough. Shoot me down if you think this is not right but before you do look at a lot of the goals he has let in and how many the oposition keepers have kept out from City shots.

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    goldie

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Eddie, we did beat WBA 2-0. But your point is valid. All this petanque is a lood o` bools. What yer want is a noice geerm o` maarbles.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • DOBBY 1970.....quelle planet are you on?? If Delia, Michael and others over the years had not supported the club financially there quite simply would not be a Norwich City FC. I think that if we were to heed your words we would all fall off the edge of that "flat earth" you inhabit. Now to football matters.....It does look as if we will be the losers from the bottom half of the table as we do not appear generally to be as resilient as most of the rest. The others have got their act together, some have changed managers, and are generally playing competitive, flowing football and making progress up the table. We on the other hand have not reacted to our situation and give the impression that if we carry on playing as we are then everything will turn out right somehow. We just don't have the fight or resolve to get ourselves going in the right direction. I could rattle on about the technical aspects of our game but in reality these don't matter as much as a determination to fight and improve and I fear the time is now to focus, react and deal with our main shortcomings.

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    NICEONE

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • We were dire last season but got out of Jail, mainly because Wigan had a good cup run. A fortune was spent in the summer to improve the side but it appears we have gone backwards and I fear our luck has run out this season. Only a change of manager is likely to improve our performances as we failed to bring in much needed reinforcements during the transfer window. Poor defending cost us the points again on Saturday and only the village idiot would expect us to beat Man City so we may as well play the youth team whilst the first team concentrate on beating WHU the following Tuesday, hopefully with a new man in charge.

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    TrevorKeith

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • ITS not just Hughton and his back room staff that needs to go . ITS time for Delia and the board of old croonies to also leave they done what they wanted to do was to get the club dept free now all they are interested in know is to make money thats all they know they don't have a clue how to run a football in the preeirship Delia is just a fallin tv idlol not getting her kicks for trying to run a premeirship football club. IF CH is still here next season then i will not be renewing my 3 season ticket i will let some other mug have them .

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    Obi-wan

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • A lot of posters say get rid, but don't suggest a viable replacement, and please don't tell me Malky or Di Matteo, as they are both still being paid by their former clubs. Reasons to be cheerful. We are 1 of 10 teams fighting relegation. On MOTD Hansen said that we will be ok if we play like we did at Cardiff. They also said that Fulham & Cardiff are the most likely relegation candidates. That leaves 1 from 7. We need to support the team. Send out the positive vibes rather than the backbiting atmosphere we had v Newcastle, which the players remarked on. We can survive but it will take a team effort on everyone's behalf OTBC.

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    General Norwich

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Carry on in that manner Burglecut and you will be dismissed from the forum. (Good on you mate).

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    el dingo

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Seriously, pick the failings apart, but I really am starting to believe that the vast majority of Norwich City fans are frustrates HR managers. All problems can be solved by hiring and firing! lol

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I wonder if CH and coaches watched the Man C Chelsea game, and took note of the fact that attacking the Man C defense caused them all sorts of problems. I guess we will find out at the week-end.

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    MichiganCanary

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • Having been 'forced' to travel to Cardiff on Saturday but not allowed to leave the coach, I listened to players comments after the game, watched the on-board recording on the journey back to Naaarfolk, and have today watched a download. I hate to disappoint all you "sack Hughton" brigade, but the poor performance of several key players is not his fault. The MID's (Match Input) revealed that Guiterrez,Fer & Johnson all achieved a 23%+ figure greater than Snodgrass,van Wolf & Martin. Would the "Hughton Out" brigade blame him because currently the team are carrying three players ? The squad are all trained together now, given team instructions together, and since last week, the dining tables within Colney have now been moved so as a 'togetherness & team building" routine is kept too. Previously, cliques had been allowed to go unchecked and has in the past caused problems. Personally, I can 'see' fallouts and at least 2 current members of the first team jumping ship, the official line is "the club will do whatever it takes to survive", but already their has been talk of Championship wages and those without the prem clause in their contract. But on a happier note... Draw at home, lose away and Norwich will survive......just

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    pubmandave

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Hey Gek I know we allow a lot of artistic licence on here but you claim to look similar to both Alfie Bass and Clive James. They are poles (are we allowed to use that word?) apart. One short, squat and dark (full head of hair) the other long and fairish (no hair). While we are outing ourselves. When I was in my teens I was said to resemble Peter Noone of H.Hermits but now I am older I am compared to Charlie Drake. Or maybe two thirds Drake and one third Mr. Pastry. Peter Noone ,meanwhile, with the help of the American surgeon's knife looks as he ever did.

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    Steely Dan

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • Just wanted to say that Snodgrass had a cracking game on Saturday, some amazing play and great corners. He seems to me to be the one destined for captain when a decent manager comes in.

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    Cuttlefishpie

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Setting aside the hardwork and endeavour of Saturday afternoon, we have become the mugs of the premier league. Teams that are quite obviously struggling play us and manage to secure points - Fulham and Cardiff for example. Saturdays result has left me totally gobsmacked. Its now going to be one hell of a roller-coaster ride between now and the end of the season.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Goldie-At last someone else who has seen how Russ Martin constantly backs off until its too late, he is woeful, Lambert saw it in the Prem and loaned Naughton, some fans still think hes great because he makes a few last ditch tackles, afrais is rubbing off on Bennett who has recently started to run away from attackers rather than stop them.

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    Jimhow

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Timing... Why did our illustrious leader come out with the statment "We need to address our goals drought" after the Transfer Window had shut, everyone has been saying it since August, I fail to understand, First our Manager, and, Our Board, Wolfnuts will come good has passed it's sell by date, noticed we did not hear "Cardiff are full of Quality" sat afternoon, after our strike force failed to score again, I ask the board "When is all this nonsence going to stop", and I say you've left it all a bit late now, we are left with what we've got now, like it or lump it... to the Board I say "You've only got your self to blame, and I await your excuses in May.

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    OLDYELLA

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Norwich have better players than when they gained promotion. They are as well organised, and probably a little more disciplined. They are not as fit. Tactically the problem is the low pressure defence, their inability to press effectively as far up the field as possible, their slowness on the break and the mistaken idea that somehow the Norwich 11 will defend better than they other team will attack. It still might work. They might stay up, but for the first time in 40 years I don't look forward to watching them play. I wont boo them. I'm one of the supporters who watches silently as winning tactics go out the window. When the team goes a head, it is a signal to abandon the winning style of play and fall back to the penalty area. Time to go Mr H.

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    Indiabill

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Malaga, we do not have a petanca club ,but if we did it would be on the up. A boules up ! just like saturdays result

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Malaga - I played in France where it's petanque (or boules, obviously). I was useless because it is not an easy game to pick up quickly. But unlike Hughton i never claimed to be an expert. btw there is still life in the corpse of RCD Mallorca:)

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    el dingo

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I didn`t say I looked like Clive James, Steely, I merely refused to give him my autograph. I was still learning to write, you see (ongoing project). You should have seen me and Rory McGrath go at it in the `Free Press`, Cambridge. What a wimp. Alfie Bass did a superb take on Topol`s part in Fiddler on the Roof, already. Much better. If I were a rich man.... My ex Grandmother-in-Law thought I was `jist like that Alan Ladd`. Isn`t Anno Domini cruel? Isn`t Solksjaer a Babe?

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • OOPS, slip of the finger. I mean could not hit a barn door of course.

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    Yellowfirebird

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I can understand Hughton bemoaning bad defending but Saturday again highlighted what has happened during his reign. Early goal no other shot on target in the first half, conced silly goals and then batter the opposition trying to get back, other teams go for a decent lead before sitting back. We have proven strikers but even Van Persie can't score with every attempt. The players aren't poor but that suggests its the coaching and match planning, we're running out of the 6 point games which is just as well following Fulham and Cardiff. The end of last season we pushed up against WBA denied them the opportunity to get out of their own half, then we create more chances and hopefully get the goals. I'm afraid unless this is recognised its hard to see how we can escape

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    John

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • For goodness sake! If the Canaries had beaten our lot 7-2 on Saturday, we could not have complained. You hit the woodwork twice, had two goals disallowed, one cleared off the line and Marshall made three breath-taking saves. Only Bassong was guilty of a glaring miss. The main reason you lost was not your manager or tactics or your transfer policy - it was because sometimes football is simply not fair.

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    Cardiff City Fan

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Thanks Finn Blue. Would rather play you in the Premiership than the Championship too ! Dave123- good point on Beccio. If you watch him banging the goals in for Leeds he's obviously a good player. He didn't become a bad player overnite, so why isn't the Country Vicar playing him? Please don't anyone tell me he's not Premier standard. How do you know? He needs to start ( + preferably finish) @ least 10 games before making a judgement. The 88th min bit part cameo roles he's been given tell us ( + Hughton) nothing. Please admit RVW was a mistake + unload him ASAP. I've never known us spend so much on a player + get so little in return. Lightweight on the ball + easily injured he's just not a City striker. We'd have been better keeping our 442 formation, attacking football + Grant Holt. Yes- we'd have conceeded a few, but we'd have scored a whole lot more. Without a change of manager I'll be amazed if we survive. Please put Mike Phelan on standby for after the next defeat...sorry I mean "game"- OTBC !!!

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    Timbo

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • The answer is for Mr McNally to resign NOW - he has presided over the demise of our club - it's your fault, sir - and I request that you go now and at the same pay back your wages for this season. Disgraceful mismanagement of our club's resources. Never mind, the City stand almost comes up to Championship league standard - so that's OK - Yes?

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    57charles

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Goldie-At last someone else who has seen how Russ Martin constantly backs off until its too late, he is woeful, Lambert saw it in the Prem and loaned Naughton, some fans still think hes great because he makes a few last ditch tackles, afrais is rubbing off on Bennett who has recently started to run away from attackers rather than stop them.

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    Jimhow

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • That sums it up - we have a Tractor Boy feeling sorry for us. Thanks Chris!

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    Smudger75

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Well,DJ_Framboise, do you stand outside Tescos, Archant, Parliament, Etc.when you do not get what you think you are paying for, assuming you do pay. The EPL clubs are now a business, not the supporter friendly clubs some used to be. True supporters do not boo their clubs or players. Many of them in the EPL are not capable of performing at the top level. What do your supporters do when you have a bad day? Mad Brewer, I feel it too often, the desire to tell them how bad they are, I was also taught manners. But its the players, many who are much better than their performances. Who can plan for the stupid pass, made by Hooper, across his own area, with fast players within touching distance. The defence, part timers, Olson is a quality player, but he spends his games with players who are so poor at times, they make him look just as bad. Until we get some decent defenders, centre backs and full backs, who can defend, and show some basic understanding as to what is going on around them, we will struggle, whoever is managing this bunch. The paucity between the back four and midfield is the main reason we are struggling.

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    willb

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Timing... Why did our illustrious leader come out with the statment "We need to address our goals drought" after the Transfer Window had shut, everyone has been saying it since August, I fail to understand, First our Manager, and, Our Board, Wolfnuts will come good has passed it's sell by date, noticed we did not hear "Cardiff are full of Quality" sat afternoon, after our strike force failed to score again, I ask the board "When is all this nonsence going to stop", and I say you've left it all a bit late now, we are left with what we've got now, like it or lump it... to the Board I say "You've only got your self to blame, and I await your excuses in May.

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    OLDYELLA

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Oops! That should have been "shorts", not "shots".......as if Norwich would ever go for "shots". Silly me.

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    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • When has Chris Hughton ever said he believes Norwich are a team which should be playing in the Premier League? Never, and the reason is that he has never, nor will he ever, truly see us a club who can achieve at this level. Hughton doesn't believe in this team, or that Norwich should be in the top flight - so why should we continue to back him?

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    Powers1902

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Brew are you sticking with Alfie Bass ? The last time I saw him was with Alf Garnet 'In sickness and in health'. The last Fidler I saw was Paul Nicholas ,one time sitcom actor and minor pop star. Son of a Belgian banker I think. Belgians in the Congo.

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    Steely Dan

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • In reply to recent posters- why will hughton not give Becchio a start, he has been at the club for a whole year now and has NEVER been given a chance while Elmander and van Winkle continually fail to make any impact. Along with Wes he obviously doesn't like or rate him!! Give the poor s,d a chance how can he be any worse he might just be what we need!!! We simply will not survive unless our pathetic goal tally dramatically improves . Time for something completely different!!! Hughton just has to go straight after Saturday and there is a groundswell of opinion mounting to give Neil Adams the reins .What a breath of fresh air he would inject with passion and drive making up for lack of experience. Can anyone really say he could do any worse.? He who dares wins!!!! Sadly not Hughtons catchphrase. Finally I agree that the Boards silence on the clubs state is deafening. Perhaps we could hope for the dreaded vote of confidence in Hughton and co.? We CAN stay up but time is short.

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    Mawther07

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Having been 'forced' to travel to Cardiff on Saturday but not allowed to leave the coach, I listened to players comments after the game, watched the on-board recording on the journey back to Naaarfolk, and have today watched a download. I hate to disappoint all you "sack Hughton" brigade, but the poor performance of several key players is not his fault. The MID's (Match Input) revealed that Guiterrez,Fer & Johnson all achieved a 23%+ figure greater than Snodgrass,van Wolf & Martin. Would the "Hughton Out" brigade blame him because currently the team are carrying three players ? The squad are all trained together now, given team instructions together, and since last week, the dining tables within Colney have now been moved so as a 'togetherness & team building" routine is kept too. Previously, cliques had been allowed to go unchecked and has in the past caused problems. Personally, I can 'see' fallouts and at least 2 current members of the first team jumping ship, the official line is "the club will do whatever it takes to survive", but already their has been talk of Championship wages and those without the prem clause in their contract. But on a happier note... Draw at home, lose away and Norwich will survive......just

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    pubmandave

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • My god how do you stop it?

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    Burglecut

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • To say the 'Hughton out brigade' is a miss leading term, the vast majority of fans have now come to realise we need a change be it now or in the summer. I know of no one personally that thinks he should stay. So actually we should say the 'Hughton stay brigade' because there are now such a small number it's almost becoming singular.

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    Burglecut

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • I assume you meant\are frustrated, LYB? el dingo, is this `sharp dressed man` Hoots? Surely not! Anyway, I thought Delia was all mine, she didn`t recoil when I implored "Let`s be `avin` ya". Anyway(2), I`m just off to stock up on Valentine cards. One for Anthony, one for Shirley and loads for Solksjaer! He`s a Babe!

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • El Dingo - yes petanca is a very easy game to learn but like many others frustrating to play in some ways - especially as most surfaces are uneven so the ball doesn't always run true as in bowls. Most teams in La Liga struggle financially - partly because, as you know, tv revenue is a free for all with each club making its own deals. In reality that means the top three or four clubs get most of the cake. But to get back to Norwich's problems, it is obvious that Hughton is out of his depth in the Prem League. His tactics mean we go into every game hamstrung for a start and he seems to be unable to read a game in progress and to effect changes. That includes his use of subs, much of which is hard to comprehend to say the least. They usually come too late in the game to make any effect or are devoid of purpose. That allied to not being a natural leader and motivator makes him less than effective. Bit like Delia making a cake but finding she is short of most of the basic ingredients!

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    malaga flier

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I look like Alfie Bass, Barking Wise. The clue`s in the label. I must admit, I`ve never seen you as a total Ar$ene. Maybe a bit of a Wenger? I`ve always visualised BPBP as a saintly figure in a stained glass window backlit, as if by magic, by the Rising Sun. Well illuminated pub, that. Btw, I`m more a polder person that the Norway thing.Can`t affjord them. Gek Brouwer.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • That was a "peach" of a posting, DJ Framboise.....or, in your case, a raspberry. Quite agree. And talking of unpopular managers (which we have been since.....for ever), I got up early and expectantly to hear the press conference at Craggy Island, only to be disappointed. McWillynilly was busy checking his stocks and shares and Delia was waiting for her star to rise. So conference cancelled and it looks looks, BP2, as if we are indeed stuck with the Status Quo managing our football club, rock in' all over the world and scr*win' up all over the pitch. So, in the absence of any breaking celebrations in and around the Carra, here's something to hold the front page : I am NOT Bill Punton, nor his Bald Patch. I have nothing against the occasional cup of Carluccio at Capuccinos ( or vice versa), nor do I discriminate against receding hairlines. Indeed, a distinguished bald patch might deflect attention away from the wrinkles on the front of the head, some of which, admittedly, are the result of scarring after self harming with a Stanley knife while listening to Charlotte intoning the results at 5 pm on a Saturday.. No, I'm afraid my sausages come from Spurgeons not Smithfields. So that's me outed, how about you StewPaSnips? I won't ask Brewer. Besides, he'll be busy choosing a Valentines card for the Manc-Norse-Taff--Wrinklefree super sub who assassinated our PL survival hopes on Saturday.

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    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Good points, well made, Malaga. Incidentally, does your boules club need a new manager? I know one who has nothing going for him except a set of balls of steel....and he speaks a little Brummy too.

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    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • willb - didn't seem to hurt Leeds much at the weekend, and I recall Cardiff was awash with demonstrations earlier this season. Arsenal got booed off the pitch on the first day of the season, and their fans are still questioning Wenger's transfer policies. Being passionate about your club is part of football, and every poster on here genuinely wants to see NCFC do well in this league. The fact that we aren't, through tactical and managerial ineptitude, lack of board-level leadership or visibility, and the lack of will and positive attitude to actually go and win games, is why we are also in this category. We pay our money, we are entitled to our opinion on what we see (or don't see). IMO, it's up to the manager, players and board to change their attitude, in order to try and change ours - not the other way around. Feel free to politely applaud á lá McNally after yet another dire performance, but for most of us that's no longer acceptable. This team may go down without a fight, but the supporters won't, and we're the ones who will still be here in 2-3 seasons regardless of which division we are playing in.

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    Ghanawintheleague

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I'm with Konrad on this. Behind after 50 minutes, CH waited a further 25 mins before putting on 3 subs for 15 mins. With 24 points from as many games, Man City next week and the 'final four', we need 16 points from the 9 winnable remaining games. Sorry, but I can't see it with CH. The board should act now (I cannot believe DM is not up to speed with successors) and ramp up for the W Ham game, for whom Andy Carroll will be suspended.

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    islander

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Personally as far as replacements for Hughton are concerned I think we would be hard pressed to find a candidate that would be able to mould this team into a less effective attacking team. Similarly any replacement would struggle to lower the players confidence and belief further unless maybe we appointed Steve Keane (is he still free)

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    Burglecut

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Must be your turn, Stew. I had a bad weekend and today keep getting the `blank screen\return to previous page` treatment. There`s a new conspiracy theory about; that you and Pa Snipps are the same person(s). I think Bill Punton`s BP and Barking Wise may be the same person(s). I am not Ged Steroo, though I will admit to being Gek Brouwer. I think Mattias is a kind of Vampire; only comes out on working days. ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I'm with Konrad on this. Behind after 50 minutes, CH waited a further 25 mins before putting on 3 subs for 15 mins. With 24 points from as many games, Man City next week and the 'final four', we need 16 points from the 9 winnable remaining games. Sorry, but I can't see it with CH. The board should act now (I cannot believe DM is not up to speed with successors) and ramp up for the W Ham game, for whom Andy Carroll will be suspended.

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    islander

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • It is up to us to go and get a result at Man City now - that would also go a long way to silencing some of the critics. We have to make sure that we give them a real test on Saturday - Come on City - be up for this one !

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    Dubai Canary

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • Michigan Canary you have hit the nail on the head. This is an extract of what I wrote a few days ago. I have some advice for the team for next weeks game against MC, don't go out there thinking you are going to lose by 4,5 or 6. Knuckle down and put far more effort into your play and knock them off their stride, they are not invincible.

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    Adelaide Canary

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • Another day, another disappointment. I log in each morning hoping to be greeted with the headline...'city boss sacked! '.. Here's to tomorrow and many of us live in hope.

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    la barbe

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • The answer to "the most pressing question" is : a new manager to help us get promotion back to the PL next season. Now, this photo Mr Divot has selected to accompany his latest outpouring. Young Hooper seems to be screwing his head back on.....which might explain that fateful pass. Also, what's with the strip. I really need help with this one. Call me stupid, but I thought the Canaries played in yellow and green, and they only changed strip to avoid confusion with t'other team. Here we have Norwich swapping green shots for black ones which are the same colour as Cardiff's. So, we have Canaries dressed up as Magpies and Bluebirds dressed up in red. Perhaps the players are as confused as me.......which in turn might explain why both teams are heading inexorably (but colourfully, mind you) towards the Chaffinchip.

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    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Cardiff was a good performance undermined by a couple of minutes of sheer ineptitude. The players responsibly have to just accept that and sort it out. Take that out of the equation, I didn't think we played like a relegation side at the weekend. That said, this season has been riddled with really poor goals conceded. The players really need to sort that out.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I still feel McNally would act if he could, but nobody has rose-tints like Delia, especiallly for a sharp dressed man. Pubmandave: wot?

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    el dingo

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Whats wrong with Becchio??? He surely is an option as those other clowns really are not worth the money!!

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    dave123

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Have no illusion, we are in serious, serious trouble. I've been optimistic, but am now failing to see where we can collect the points we need as we appear to be unable to hold on to a single goal lead. We score, then sit back, letting the opposition attack us only for us to make a defensive mistake and allow them back into the game. For a team that is set up to defend, the number of mistakes that we are making is unacceptable, and is costing us matches. Instead of defending, players simply try to get in the attackers way, instead of commiting to a challenge. Additionally, there have been ONLY TWO Premiership games in which we have scored more than one goal this season - v West Ham on Nov. 9th, and v Everton in the first game of the season. These two issues combine do not bode well for our survival prospects.

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    Eddie

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Pleased that Chelsea got the points at "Maine Road" because now that Norwich are unlikely to win the league, my money's on the Woolwich Arsenal. I'm told I bear a passing resemblance to the "Professor". Not great but better than a slate hanger's nail bag. Wonder what Brewer looks like....apart from love-struck and pining for the fjords. As for BP2, I'm thinking.......Alan Gilzean maybe ??

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    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • This time last year I was running on about City staying up, in spite of the manager and not because of him. Deja Vu. Last year I was sure at least 3 teams were worse than NCFC. This year I am starting to have doubts , only calling Fulham and Cardiff worse than us; and blast me , so far we havent beaten either of them this season.AS to the manager . I have no idea why he is still there, apart from thoughts that Mcnally and the Board are so much more versed in football lore than us mere supporters.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Our petanca (boules) club has a number of Birmingham City fans among its membership. Spoke to several this morning. All said Hughton was well respected at St Andrews but they also felt his level was the Championship. They just cannot understand why he doesn't give Redmond more time on the pitch as he can turn defenders both ways and an eye for goal. Which tends to support what a lot of us have been saying here: Hughton just isn't up to Prem level as a tactician. On top of which he seems unable to read a game as it unfolds and react, nor is he a natural leader who inspires his troops. On Saturday we should follow Watford's example in the FA Cup and get into Man City players' faces, push up and deny them room in midfield before they descend on our goal. Without doubt we will lose the game so the important thing for me is to see the team give it a go and make life difficult for Man City. That at least will keep the fans on side. However if, as is likely, we continue to play in the same negative, stand-off fashion we will get slaughtered again and then sadly I can see the atmosphere in the stadium getting very unpleasant. It is up to Hughton - but can a leopard change its spots? Me thinks not!

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    malaga flier

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Personally as far as replacements for Hughton are concerned I think we would be hard pressed to find a candidate that would be able to mould this team into a less effective attacking team. Similarly any replacement would struggle to lower the players confidence and belief further unless maybe we appointed Steve Keane (is he still free)

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    Burglecut

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Doby1970 if you don't renew your season ticket, it will free up a seat for hopefully a more loyal supporter and perhaps give relief to the earache that your neighbouring fans may be getting. Very ignorant remarks with regard to what Delia has done for the club, the fact is if she hadn't dug deep into her own pockets a few years back, the club could quite possibly have gone under. The directors are successful business people and fortunately for us so far at least have taken a calm and measured approach rather than being swayed by hysterical fans like yourself.

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    Johny

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Indeed I am, Steely. Abraham Basalinski (approx) from Bethnal Green or some such place is my Doppelganger, or I his, as he predates me by about 30 years! My old Gran-in-law`s Alan Ladd take was based purely on the shallow, but true, premise that I was young, handsome and short (song there, somewhere?). Plus I was a bit of a lad in those days!

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • As a supporter from down the road I would like to point out that spending mega millions on players dont always work We tried that with our brief prermieship time... They forget (manergers ect.) the team that got us there . I think most of your posters are right in wanting C.H. Out he is a bit like our G.Burley was as he won't listen or change play when needed. You need a city man in to try and save your season.. Hope we get the chance to play you again soon but in a Sporting way not all the bad things of the past. Wish you luck as you might need it..

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    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I think you are being too optimistic Mellow, expecting a roller coaster ride. Unless Hughton is sent packing now, the journey to the end of the season will be a down hill run. Hughton has no self belief and he has made the team think like losers. He has no leadership qualities whatsoever and has removed them from the team. Sorry we're dead.

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    waclor

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Every morning i wake up like many others on this board and hope this nightmare has ended with Houghton's firing. However, like the many others leave sadly dejected with the Premier league flame slowly dying out. Besides the feeling of utter hopelessness i still can't get my head around the lack of affirmative action by City fans. I live 4,000 miles away and no longer able to get to the games but i'm staggered by the lack of actual action. All i read day in day out is what we already know about Houghton's inability the manage this club and the boards dismissive attitude towards the supporters. Why isn't anybody doing anything? Why aren't there demonstrations at the ground? Where is the supporters club voice? We have social media, newspapers, flyers etc; i've seen or heard nothing other than constant bleating on these posts. If we are to survive affirmative action needs to happen now! someone needs to stand up and lead the charge if McNally is going to listen.

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    Nutster

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • Man. City v Chelsea. Only 3 English (I mean British) players in the starting 22. Is that where we're going wrong. Hold on, we had to put up a fair old amount of money to become an "academy", obviously we'll be just fine in the future.

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    Lobbo

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • El Dingo - yes petanca is a very easy game to learn but like many others frustrating to play in some ways - especially as most surfaces are uneven so the ball doesn't always run true as in bowls. Most teams in La Liga struggle financially - partly because, as you know, tv revenue is a free for all with each club making its own deals. In reality that means the top three or four clubs get most of the cake. But to get back to Norwich's problems, it is obvious that Hughton is out of his depth in the Prem League. His tactics mean we go into every game hamstrung for a start and he seems to be unable to read a game in progress and to effect changes. That includes his use of subs, much of which is hard to comprehend to say the least. They usually come too late in the game to make any effect or are devoid of purpose. That allied to not being a natural leader and motivator makes him less than effective. Bit like Delia making a cake but finding she is short of most of the basic ingredients!

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    malaga flier

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • For goodness sake get rid of him and his cronies NOW.

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    VictorM

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I really can't see why everybody is so worried.In mr Hewtn we have the architect and master of the colander defensive system.We also have what people tell me is that astute business man Mr. McNally along with a Board who are obviously content with us hovering 2 points above the relegation zone.Must be right, hence their decision not to appoint a new manager at Christmas last season.They must know much more about football than any of us,even more than the last Board who, in their undoubted wisdom took an understandable age before dismissing Mr. Worthington.We must appreciate that he along with Mr.Hewtn (that's how we saay it where I live Bor) are such nice men.We must never allow sympathy and loyalty to affect our business heads.What do we know? I fully expect "the Winkle" to see off Man City next Saturday and become an immediate member of our Hall of Fame.OTBC

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    irongloves

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I agree, willb, I`ve never liked booing and I`ve never done it anywhere, any time, for any reason. But that`s because I have impeccable manners. I am sorely tempted to boo Hughton, but won`t. Hans Christian AndersEn would`ve noticed, by now, the paucity of clothes adorning our current King of Calamity. There are also shades of The Wizard of Oz about Hughton. You stayed clear at the weekend, Mattias. Do you not `work` weekends? ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Personally as far as replacements for Hughton are concerned I think we would be hard pressed to find a candidate that would be able to mould this team into a less effective attacking team. Similarly any replacement would struggle to lower the players confidence and belief further unless maybe we appointed Steve Keane (is he still free)

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    Burglecut

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Goldie, you are spot on with regard the right back and keeper and I fear too many opposition managers have recognised their weaknesses. I wonder if you are the same man that once played in goal and would also have seen Martin perform over at Peterborough, a good division one full back and not out of place in the Championship but the Premiership is perhaps a step too far, that said he performed very well against Man Utd. Big John has not fully recovered from his injury last season in my mind, seems to struggle with long shots and is a bit slow to go to ground. He is however the best we have got and has made some outstanding saves this season, I live in hope that he will soon regain his preinjury form but only time will tell.

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    TrevorKeith

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • This season my predictions have City to go down. (Staying up but only just was what I expected at this time last season.) As others have said, only two teams could be described as worse than Norwich: Fulham and Cardiff. City have lost from winning positions against both and I doubt City will get enough points elsewhere to survive. It will be tight. I do not like the hard run in. However, Man U lost at Stoke. Everton and Spurs were well beaten by Liverpool and Man City respectively. Thus a top four of Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, with Man U out of it. City are relying on three others to do worse than us or for the top teams to play like Man City did on the final day of last season and thus survive. If we stay up we are likely to be in the same predicament (!) again in a years time. History says so. West Brom were lucky to stay up when we went down under Worthington but the Baggies were relegated with only 30 points the following season. Wigan and QPR fortunate to survive two seasons ago but both were relegated last season. Any replacement for Chris Hughton must be able to turn things around.

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    Capri

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Poor old Hughton he needs more time, he's only had 18 months and £28 million to spend, and it's not like he inherited a spirited team that played exciting and attacking football and had a striker that could score regularly. Oh and he's a true gentleman

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    Burglecut

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Personally as far as replacements for Hughton are concerned I think we would be hard pressed to find a candidate that would be able to mould this team into a less effective attacking team. Similarly any replacement would struggle to lower the players confidence and belief further unless maybe we appointed Steve Keane (is he still free)

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    Burglecut

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I shall continue to remain as positive as I can.Some interesting stats from Saturday.In the last 15 mins of the game we had 14 shots,9 on target,to Cardiffs nil and during that time every city outfield player spent 80% of the time in the Cardiff half while all Cardiff players except two were camped on their penalty box.Yet some of you still dont give the players any credit.

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    Trevor Sadd

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • Hi, wivenhoe. Just picked up on your `Starlight` post. I was at Watney`s in Mortlake about the time that stuff was `invented`. In fact it was just Pale Ale in keg with an ABV of a massive 3.0%. It also masqueraded as the notorious Party Four and the even more notorious Exploding Party Seven. I was but a humble chemist in those days. When Watney`s created a bottled beer, "Straight Eight", out of the execrable Red Revolution stuff, the Marketing men had the slogan "The beer that doesn`t die in the glass" (aka fizzy & frothy). I reinvented that as "The beer that`s dead before it leaves the brewery". When the same marketing men told us that "Bitter`s on the move to Starlight", we all moved to a Young`s pub adjacent to Mortlake Brewery for our post-work pints. So I was never one of these evil Directors, Wiv, honest. Just a humble brewer\scientist tied to a lowly paid profession by dint of not being a public school boy. Very important in those days. It still is - look at the Government.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • Teams that have "supporters" that boo during and after games are usually teams that will fail. Teams that have "supporters" that call for people to boycott them are usually teams that fail. If you cannot support your team find some other team to bring down. I do not expect anyone with any responsibility or authority ever visit this web site, but if they did they would wonder why. Hans Christian Anderson has nothing on this.

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    willb

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Thats where Mr Davitt and I disagree, I reacon Van toewinkel could hit the side of a barn door, in the premiership or championship. That said, all seen to want a change, manager, staff, players or even the board. What I propose is a change. Gets this Chris and company, plat the old fashioned way, you know fullbacks that tackle instead of backing off. Centre backs who can head the ball in more directions than straight up in the air. Wingers who are right footed, playing on the right flank, visa versa with the lefties. They could have the novell idfea of crossing the ball to the forwards now and again, even having the odd shot or so themselves. Strikers who are not afraid of holdning, running, and shooting the football occasionally. It would be so outdated and novell that I suppose it would takes other teams the rest of the season to work out what to do to counteract. So peed off with this backing off, dont get involved, dont commit style....its driving me mad. GET STUCK IN. City to win 2-0 on saturday. OTBC

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    Yellowfirebird

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • pubmandave your contribution is so important you submitted it three times. Still I read it only once which was more than enough. Of course it's Hughton's fault if the players don't perform; it's his job to get them to perform. Ergo he is not doing his job. What do you do with someone who isnt doing their job? Sack them.

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    Cecil

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Looking at the fixtures there are some winnable games and even the last 4 could produce some points ( eg W Brom got a point against Liverpool this week ) BUT need a leader on and off the pitch to crystallise the team. I have to admit that after trying to support CH all season as I don't believe that negativity is helpful, I think a change of management ( all 3 of them) is essential to fight for every point. (BTW I was finally convinced by the fact that we left the substitutions so late on Saturday.)

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    Konrad54

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Every morning i wake up like many others on this board and hope this nightmare has ended with Houghton's firing. However, like the many others leave sadly dejected with the Premier league flame slowly dying out. Besides the feeling of utter hopelessness i still can't get my head around the lack of affirmative action by City fans. I live 4,000 miles away and no longer able to get to the games but i'm staggered by the lack of actual action. All i read day in day out is what we already know about Houghton's inability the manage this club and the boards dismissive attitude towards the supporters. Why isn't anybody doing anything? Why aren't there demonstrations at the ground? Where is the supporters club voice? We have social media, newspapers, flyers etc; i've seen or heard nothing other than constant bleating on these posts. If we are to survive affirmative action needs to happen now! someone needs to stand up and lead the charge if McNally is going to listen.

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    Nutster

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • I knew we were heading for a downward slide when we let the ginger Pele go

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    irongloves

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I've just been asked to re-new my season ticket. Two points: (1) the club is trying to get my cash before relegation which in my view is now a dead certain and (2) why should I pay towards an Academy when the cash is rolling in while we are in the Premiership when it is clear the Board doesn't care if we are relegated? Does the Board watch the same matches as us? They must surely know it is a failing business A family club or laughing at us as loyal supporters ?

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    Canterbury Tales

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Well,DJ_Framboise, do you stand outside Tescos, Archant, Parliament, Etc.when you do not get what you think you are paying for, assuming you do pay. The EPL clubs are now a business, not the supporter friendly clubs some used to be. True supporters do not boo their clubs or players. Many of them in the EPL are not capable of performing at the top level. What do your supporters do when you have a bad day? Mad Brewer, I feel it too often, the desire to tell them how bad they are, I was also taught manners. But its the players, many who are much better than their performances. Who can plan for the stupid pass, made by Hooper, across his own area, with fast players within touching distance. The defence, part timers, Olson is a quality player, but he spends his games with players who are so poor at times, they make him look just as bad. Until we get some decent defenders, centre backs and full backs, who can defend, and show some basic understanding as to what is going on around them, we will struggle, whoever is managing this bunch. The paucity between the back four and midfield is the main reason we are struggling.

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    willb

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Think I may stay clear of these forums today :( Worrying times. We can use all the excuses in the world but the 1 thing that truly matters is winning. It isnt a kids level game where all that matters is playing well and the taking part. If that was the case we'd be top of the league based on Saturday. Silly thing is we created more in the final 20 minutes than we have all season combined (ok over the top but you get my point). Scarypleasing thing is there will come a time where Hughton has to let the reigns off earlier because he simply has no choice....I just hope by that point it isn't already too late.

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    Mattias333

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • They just did it to me, Stew! Are you really Pa Snipps too? Barking Wise\Bill Punton think(s) you may be.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • The answer is for Mr McNally to resign NOW - he has presided over the demise of our club - it's your fault, sir - and I request that you go now and at the same pay back your wages for this season. Disgraceful mismanagement of our club's resources. Never mind, the City stand almost comes up to Championship league standard - so that's OK - Yes?

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    57charles

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • it seems to me if we submit an item that says anything that is not complimentary about city or Hoots then your submission gets taken down Archy as my last item did

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    leslie cater

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Dubai, you are quite right. Our Maine chance to avoid a trashing is to go to the Etihad. The match itself is scheduled for Carrow Road. Keep taking the Happy Pils. ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • How much longer are the board going to support this manager and his useless training squad. I support the team wholeheartedly but they need proper training - we buy great strikers and turn them into mediochre players. The training staff are not up to the job - get them out.

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    Jim

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I think the headline of this story should read "THE NORWICH CITY BOARD HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE MOST PRESSING QUESTION" hich is why is he still here

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    leslie cater

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • India Bill makes some telling points.But it does not call for a blanket maligning of the directorate.It appears they have unfortunately played into their critics hands by failing to take decisive action after an intensive appreciation of the position on and off pitch. Result stuttering erratic performances on the pitch,which do nothing to comfort faithful supporters and an endurance test of outside informed opinion which sees Norwich as without sufficient resolve to stay in the division Speculation is rife - can two loan players mean lmoney was not made available for the window or the manager not trusted to spend wisely after the previously huge investment for Norwich? Also division is suspected with or without foundation when reportedly the Chairman is alleged to have stated that Norwich were entitled to expect a higher league placing because of the size of their financial investment. Add into this mix what is currently happening at Crystal Palace, Sunderland and possibly about to happen at Cardiff brcause they took the bull by the horns and Carrow Road is framed in black! Of course there is the contrary opinion that we have not only a fine personality as manager - one trying his level best - who is astute in tactics etc You pay the money and take your choice!

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    mardler

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • With all the negativity that is around, I just cannot understand this deafening silence from the board. Someone needs to say something concrete, even if it is "we will be making a statement at some date in the future". It's as though they are all away on break

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    MichiganCanary

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Brew in that case I will settle on Lionel Begleiter born Stepney 1930. Was once upon a time the highest paid person in showbiz ,earning more than the Beatles. Non gentile whose parents were from Galicia.

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    Steely Dan

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • BBC report....."Mourinho completely out-thought City manager Manuel Pellegrini, and Chelsea completely outplayed City." I wonder if CH could do the same !

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    Lobbo

    Tuesday, February 4, 2014

  • I think after 18 months a dire rubbish the supports should not be criticised for feeling a little aggrieved. Yes we can survive but it will be despite Hughton and not because of him. Fulham and Cardiff your tips for relegation both beat us. Finally how can we survive unless we score goals and defend well, we are doing neither, but Chris Hughton should be congratulated I haven't seen us commit foul throw the ball all season maybe that's what they are training.

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    Burglecut

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Yes, we played reasonably well for much of the game Saturday and were unlicky not to score in that last 15 where we battered them. However, the subs were too little too late, and enough is enough. I say throw the dice, it's never too late. Get someone else in who will be prepared to play the full 90 like we did the last 15. You know what, I've not felt he's the answer when suggested before, but I'd settle for Neil Adams caretaker manager to the end of the season if there are no other options. At least he could breath some life into us. To be honest I don't think it matters too much who we get in. we need a change. Something is better than nothing. All he has to do is give the players a lift to the end of the season. We just need someone who can man manage and get the players believing in themselves! Doesn't need to be the ideal man for the job at this stage. No tactical genius or wizard in the ransfer market. Just someone with some fighting spirit and a will to attack teams!

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    Smudger75

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • it seems to me if we submit an item that says anything that is not complimentary about city or Hoots then your submission gets taken down Archy as my last item did

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    leslie cater

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • I think after 18 months a dire rubbish the supports should not be criticised for feeling a little aggrieved. Yes we can survive but it will be despite Hughton and not because of him. Fulham and Cardiff your tips for relegation both beat us. Finally how can we survive unless we score goals and defend well, we are doing neither, but Chris Hughton should be congratulated I haven't seen us commit foul throw the ball all season maybe that's what they are training.

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    Burglecut

    Monday, February 3, 2014

  • Yep, Henry - agreed. A team that can't score goals can't win games and will get relegated. Simple as that. On which basis we are already doomed because this season we also have the double whammy - can't score and can't defend. And Hughton has spent 27 million getting us into this state!

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    Monday, February 3, 2014

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