Norwich City should beware the ‘bouncebackability’ of Premier League’s big boys

The Premier League's top four have a happy knack of avoiding back-to-back defeats this season. The Premier League's top four have a happy knack of avoiding back-to-back defeats this season.

Wednesday, February 5, 2014
11:45 AM

‘Bouncebackability’ may be a made-up word but it’s a quality the Premier League’s big boys have in bucketloads – and something Norwich City have already been on the wrong end of this season.

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What they will hope is to avoid being on the wrong side of it again on Saturday – although the evidence isn’t especially confidence-building.

Before Manchester City’s defeat at home to Chelsea last night, the Premier League’s top four had lost 16 games between them this season – but only once have they gone on to lose back-to-back games.

In fact, the other 14 occasions have brought 12 wins – the only one we don’t know the answer to at present is how Manchester City will bounce back from Monday’s defeat when they arrive at Carrow Road to face Norwich on Saturday.

Coincidentally, Norwich’s game at the Etihad in November followed the Citizens’ late 2-1 defeat at Chelsea thanks to Joe Hart’s error. The hosts went on to smash Chris Hughton’s men for seven.

And that may be the reason Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini was far from panicking over Monday’s loss – their fifth of the top-flight campaign.

“For Chelsea it was a decisive game – not for us,” he said. “If we won we were six points ahead of them (and top of the table). Now we are two points behind Arsenal. We have 39 points to play for.

“Nobody is thinking about records, we are just thinking about winning the games.”

What Manchester City will have to contend with at Carrow Road is their list of absentees.

Sergio Aguero is at the beginning of a month on the sidelines with a calf injury, while Fernandinho pulled out before Monday’s game with an unspecified muscle strain – he is expected to be out for at least a fortnight.

Samir Nasri will be absent with a knee injury but Javi Garcia is expected to be back after missing Monday, while James Milner was on the bench.

46 comments

  • We only need a small bounce from the massive uplift that appointing a new manager would bring to see us to safety, no doubt that Hughton is taking us down and if McNally doesn't act soon presumably he will end up committing suicide as he prefers death to relegation.

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    BrightonCanary

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • I fear that NCFC are a championship team with Premiership ambition. Sadly this season has seen some very half hearted performances. Sure, CH has to take some of the blame for poor team choicestactics BUT there are 11 players in the team and some of the very poor play cant always be laid at CH door. Some of our team display such terrible ball control that it would embarass an average team of 10yr olds. Look, Im a NCFC fan and want them to do well, but this constant calling for CH head isnt helping. Lets get behind the team as much as we can and then at the end of the season look again at the management if necessary. I doubt that any new Manager will turn the team around at this point of the season. Lets give CH until the end of the season. As Fergie recently said, constant changes of Managers is very bad for a team.... Im now preparing to be shouted down by the die hard anti CH brigade...lol

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    Tootyfrooty

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • I hope it`s on Partridge too. They`re funny. Specially the ex-player who sarnds like Len Goodman of Stwictly caarm Dorncin` fame. Forgotten his real monicker.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 6, 2014

  • Derek McD, you are talking total rot. Any decent manager with these same players available would have achieved 10 points more this season. If you can't see he's out of his depth, you in a smaller and smaller minority and one that is in denial.

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Good one GossVolley. Great reporting, Archant -what would us fans know without you?

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Canaries007, let's face it even an Octopus would be an improvement on Hughton, the man is the most bizarre excuse for a football manager I have ever seen, he has made Norwich a world wide laughing stock, aided by the most inept board in the EPL

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    BrightonCanary

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Without doubt we are lacking quality in some areas of the pitch and some of our players are, in all honesty, Championship level rather than Prem level. However Lambert proved that even a team of average players can be welded into a useful and competitive outfit if they are properly drilled, coached and organised and supported by a manager with natural leadership qualities - who instils a never-say-die attitude. Hughton also spent a fortune in the summer bringing in new players but has failed miserably to get anything approaching acceptable levels of performance from them. So, all in all, he must shoulder the blame for our often lame and inept performances. He has also failed to ensure at the very least his players do the simple things correctly, such as moving into space to receive a pass when we have the ball and working hard midfield to close teams down higher up the pitch. As we fail in these basics, we fail as a team. End of story.

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    malaga flier

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • As usual Norwich are timing their descent to the bottom to absolute perfection to make relegation an absolute certainty with no chance of any white knight rescue, we have seen it so many times with Norwich, why are we surprised. The Norwich board always fiddles while Carrow road burns.

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    BrightonCanary

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Agree Mad, ill be doing my similar 2-1 as well! Only issue being I need to give coral I kick up the behind as there forms on the wall for ease have been lacking lately. Like to know what odds im getting before the cue to talk to a clueless wonder. The in ground bookies is truly shocking for odds. You could bet on NCFC to win 10-0 against Man City and they'd likely offer 41 as its clearly so likely to happen. I usually stick a few quid on a centre back to score first. Coral offer a good 40 or 501. In the stadium 251 at best. Massive difference. Away from the bookies I do (like most) feel we will lose. However I dont believe it will be the white wash most believe. Likely 2-1 Man City. Funny old game when im more positive than the happy go luckys who normally have a go at me for being negative.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Nice one Cecil - nice one son. Our board has lost the plot and treats us like. .....

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Man City game is a write off. To be honest I can't see us getting anything at West Ham either. The board have left it too late for anyone to replace Hughton so we might as well get used to be s..t for the rest of the season.

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    andys

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Forget bouncebackability. How old timers here can remember going to Carrow Road back in the early sixties to watch table topping Stoke. They had just bought Jimmy bMcIroy to add to their forwad line that already included Stanley Matthews and Dennis Violet. We were without our 2 recognised strikers and we fully expected to be thumped - just like Saturday. Yet we did the thumping. Beat them 6 nil. One of reserves scoring a hattrick (could it have been Gordon Bolland?).. I went home glowing with pride that day. Wouldnt it be nice if we could do it again....!! OK unlikely, but maybe we could just sneak a win. Now that WOULD cheer me up.

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    zebbee

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Although, in the Fifa games, if you forfeit a game you lose 3-0. If we could do that, we'd record a marked improvement on the last match!

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    Dan

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Mad Brewer. Have you been at the home brew by chance? Are you aware that picking other contributors up on their spelling, punctuation or other minor mistakes in posts is considered rather rude and crass? Also, do please try to stay on topic!

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    Tootyfrooty

    Thursday, February 6, 2014

  • A survival that would be aided by a major change in tactics, and if the tactical change requires a change of coach; so be it.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Ignore anyone that tries to shout you down chap. Im in the camp that wants the winds of change to blow through Carrow Road. But doesn't mean im right. Just my own personal opinion. I was very much on the fence myself for a long while. Im never one for wanting constant changes either, but sadly the issues I was worried about when we appointed them have all so far come true. Im sure Hughton is a great coach & well liked by people inside and outside the game. Just something, somewhere between on the pitch and off the pitch something gets losts in translation. I honestly believe we have a squad capable of so much more. Not saying Europe, but certainly capable of achieving the comfy midtable placing the board states they desire. With the right manager who can not only coach....but man manage players im positive we could achieve more. Who is that man? Luckily not my job to decide but just my two cents anyway. Ignore those that shoot you down tootyfrooty. Your entitled to an opinion. Its what the games all about.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Nice one Cecil - nice one son. Our board has lost the plot and treats us like. .....

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • 007, Hughton did not destroy the club, the players did

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    Derek McDonald

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • I think Hughton could surprise us this weekend, I predict after taking a heroic dose of magic mushrooms he picks a team based on their 'aura' goes for a 3 - 2 - 5 formation and uses the pre match interview to discuss the possibilty of Pellegrini being a vampire

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    GossVolley

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • I think Malaga answered Tooty very well and I cannot add to that. On the other hand, Derek McDonald, how did you arrive at the conclusion that the players have ruined the team? What exactly do you think a a manager does or rather in this case is supposed to do? Look how Hughton has treated many of the players who were the heart and soul of the hugely successful Paul Lambert Norwich team. Grant Holt, starved of a supply line to score goals not only covered miles on the pitch for the team, he kept the other players working at it as a good captain should. A good captain is a captain; two captains are no captain at all. Wes has been sidelined, Howson spent last season as a defensive midfielder. Of the fringe players, Jed Steer jumped ship and Dani Ayala has gone before we saw their potential. James Vaughan looked really good 2012 preseason but Hoots couldn't see it. Even Hoots own signings such as Becchio cannot get a look in despite being a goal scorer in a squad who cannot score goals. Hughton wrecked the players' self belief and it will take a new manager to rebuild it the way Lambert did after the disaster that was Bryan Gunn. If we are to be relegated, let's get someone in who will take us into battle like proud men not shamble into abject surrender like beaten men walking to the gallows.

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    waclor

    Thursday, February 6, 2014

  • Get the Man City game out of the way, sack Hughton. Get Neil Warnock in as intrim manager till the end of the season, i dont like the man atall, but i would put a big wager on the fact he would get us playing. He would be on the players like flies on you know what. Then Sack him.

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    Canaries007

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • I`ve got my 2-1 result\scorer double on as usual. Massive odds. If only...

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • If Norwich are to stand a chance of any points against Man City they need to increase the time they keep possession between the rare moments Man City lose the ball.

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    Watton Warrior

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Dont start the "so called supporter" talk...please for the love of god Derek! These so called supporters are still there week in, week out (for the most part) paying good money to get behind, watch, sing etc the lads on. People are allowed to voice an opinion. Does not mean there going to refuse to attend games or stop going. I certainly wont stop singing or give my seat in the lower barclay up. Does my head in. If someones opinion is different by all means have a debate, even a great big MASS....debate (chuckle...childish).....but im seeing to many NCFC fans going over the top like they want an argument with each other just because they disagree with someone and have the super human powers that are a keyboard. Have a think people.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Do we seriously need this `warning`? The problem our team needs to address is the "Sinkbackability" of Norwich City. $0d the others!

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Dont start the so called support crap. These so called supporters are still there week in, week out paying good money to get behind, watch, sing etc the lads on. People are allowed to voice an opinion. Does not mean there going to refuse to attend games or stop going. I certainly wont stop singing or give my seat in the lower barclay up. Does my head in. If someones opinion is different by all means have a debate, even a great big MASS....debate (chuckle).....seeing to many NCFC fans going over the top like they want an argument with each other. Have a think people.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Concur, MB, Townman is indeed exuding gibberish. There is little of import in his ramblings, save his deluded dream of relegation for our team. These delusional discourses may now have some small germ of a possibility; aided in no small way by our managers shortcomings and the loss of confidence in any number of our players. The league position will, no doubt not be improved by a defeat by Manchester City, but that defeat is probably inevitable. The last chance saloon is looming large on tuesday next week, when defeat at Upton Park will take us past the place of no return, but a victory there may be the catalyst to an unlikely survival.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • The only way to beat such a great side as Man City is to attack them at every opportunity and be at them constantly. That is how lower division sides pull off their giant killing acts. For this you need a team willing to run themselves into the ground and sweat blood. Shame the City players are not of this calibre. And whoever talks of Man City " bounce back " is an idiot. They are so far ahead of the pack in skill and goal scoring ability that one loss at home to a rival top side is not a crisis. And please all those people who keep telling me that I am not a " true supporter", comment on the City and their , our , plight and stop talking nonsense. How can any " true " supporter be satisfied with CH and City this season.

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    norman hall

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Problem with that colin is People counter that statement with "there is plenty of other sides worse than us etc...." & "were not in the relegation zone". Struggling to find where we will get the points from unless some extremely surprising results appear for us for a change.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • off. he`s. Capitals. Spaces. Apostrophes. Syntax. What language was that, Town`man`? Not English. Oh, yes - Gibberish.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Saturday won't determine our season. Losing after scoring first against both Fulham and Cardiff means City are odds-on to go down in my opinion. This is based on predictions from our fixtures and those of our rivals. Relegation is not a certainty. After Man City the Canaries visit Upton Park. The loss of Andy Carroll for West Ham's next three games is a major worry for them. West Ham visit Villa on Saturday and host City and Southampton during Carroll's ban. The prospect of getting something at Upton Park is much greater with Carroll absent. The onus is on the Hammers to beat City at home. They threw away three points at Carrow Road, after all!

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    Capri

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Norwich City should beware the championship unless the board act fast like Swansea have

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    leslie cater

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • "bouncebackability" ? It's the lackofmanagementability that bothers me. Boot the Hoot.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • As a neutral who attends all games, I have a couple of points to make. 1. On Monday I watched Chelsea beat the Manc's, not a result anyone truly expected, but they achieved it by everyone of the team giving 110% for all 90 minutes, I have not seen that commitment from Norwich one single game this season. 2. I have also noticed how on the rare occasion's Norwich have won, the 'fan's" speak of the team asthough they've won the league & are in Europe. The very same "fan's" are ripping them to bits within a week when they lose the next game. Lastly, The board, in my opinion are asmuch to blame as anyone, they sign "international's" no-one one has heard of and a player who scored goals in Scotland's premier league, The same league as is on equal standing as our 3rd division. Rightly, they appear to have backed CH to the end of the season, but is that because Steve Clarke could not come to an agreement or because they feel its better the devil you know. As a few of you are aware, I work quite closely with the club in a non football capacity, and have witnessed one or three rows this season. Two of the first team were banished to the reserves training sessions, another was 'punished' for critical remarks by prohibiting him access to the playing staff car park, all pretty childish in my opinion, and a situation was allowed to develop where the club was being split into cliques. Since the beginning of the month their have been changes, and the playing staff do seem happier, My heart say's Norwich will stay up, Draw at home, lose away would be good enough, but my head say's the last 4 fixtures are losses as well as this weekend against the Manc's - So that leaves 8 games to secure 18 pts !!!!!! It's possible, but given the recent form of everyone bar Fulham, unlikely. But it could be worse... What if Ipswich are promoted and we go down ? Or.... How about McCarthy to replace CH ?

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    pubmandave

    Thursday, February 6, 2014

  • The last people who need to be spoon-fed warnings about form are the faithful Norwich City supporters! We've been saying for neigh-on 18 months now that things were going south fast and now it finally seems as though the rest of the world has woken up to what we've been saying for so long. We need some inspiration and we need it now! OTBC

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    Powers1902

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Sack Chris Hughton and quick. Laudrup is available!!!! Swansea are only on the same points as us but they're playing in Europa League which stretches the squad more. Huckerby and Iwan Roberts as coaches.

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    mattncfc22

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Havent we buried the hoary old chestnut that we are not true supporters? It is very tiresome to keep exhuming it. You wonder if it is worth explaining matters to those too small-minded to understand. But here goes. It is because we are supporters and because of what Hughton is doing to our beloved club that we want him out. He has turned us into dull, inconsequential failures. We are never going to amount to anything under his management. He is boring, inadequate, and he is taking us down. He must go.

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    Cecil

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • There's absolutely no way this manager can keep this team in the Premier League. We need at least 12 more points.

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    Colin

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • There, Derek McD, you've been well and truly "framboised".....or "raspberried" as we leewcals say.

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    User Removed

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • What the players need is a wake call every minute they are on the pitch. Wheres the captain ??? The "defence" bit of a misnomer here ! Need to be half a second quicker in thought and action to cope with the millionaires of MC. Are there any chances of that ??

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    willb

    Thursday, February 6, 2014

  • And to cap it all, the BBC have decided that Radio Partridge is too small a shop window to showcase the talents of Norwich City. So the match will now be featured at 3 pm on 5 Live, so the entire country can wallow in our misery. Perhaps the Beeb thinks there's going to be a hatful of goals...or a pitch invasion....or a sacking. Surely not.

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    User Removed

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • You so called supporters keep calling for Hughton's head, but who will replace him, Warnock ex sacked Laudrup ex sacked if they are they good why did they get the sack? Laudrup has done no better than Hughton, might as well keep what we have

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    Derek McDonald

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • well said Powers by the way. 13 months of decline has been clear in my mind for a while. Its not a case of gloating or saying "haha told you so" as I wish (and still do) hope to proved wrong. Nobody is saying they know more than Hughton or the club etc....its just clear things are not well at the club and theres no clear sign things will change either. No excuse will quite cut it anymore or fool anyone. Does not mean we will boo the team etc....I for one will be singing my heart out from the lower barclay who ever were playing and whoever were managed by. Doesn't mean I cant tell when something isnt working though.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • `Keyboardery` is too easy, whichever side you take. Then, the Archant Moderators protect the guff that their amateur journos produce. Total Fruit, the forwardslash does not work on these boards. Try back\slash as a substitute. Just trying to help. olo\lol\ool\loo, whatever this post-literate jargon means.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • You need to get of agent hughtons back his doing a fine job,what you need to know is who wants to come to a little run down 2bit club like yours with no ambition.

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    Townman

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

  • Derek McDonald, what planet are you on? Derek McDonald had a club, E-I-E-I-O. Destroying this club,was Chris Hughton E-I-E-I-O. With a 5-0 here, And a 7-0 there, Here a loss, there a loss, Everywhere a loss, loss, Derek McDonald had a club, E-I-E-I-O.

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    Canaries007

    Wednesday, February 5, 2014

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