Norwich City’s Premier League season is spiralling to a sour ending

Norwich City midfielder Robert Snodgrass shows his frustration at Southampton. 
Picture by Daniel Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd Norwich City midfielder Robert Snodgrass shows his frustration at Southampton. Picture by Daniel Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Monday, March 17, 2014
7:30 AM

The saddest indictment of a dispiriting Premier League defeat on the south coast was the sense Norwich City’s players did not care.

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"Chris Hughton is not exempt from the invective that erupted during the second half. Norwich’s manager has had longer than most of his peers in a volatile industry to construct a squad and develop a style and identity that is robust enough to hope for more than the same."

Paddy Davitt

Southampton oozed confidence where Norwich looked bereft. Southampton attacked with menace and purpose where Norwich simply conceded territory and the initiative from the very first minute and, bar a crazy two-goal salvo, appeared to accept their fate with good grace.

City were deferential to an embarrassing degree. Chris Hughton and his coaching staff do need not to worry about tired limbs or physical recovery for the mountainous peaks ahead. It is the mental state of those under his command that is now of far greater concern.

Penning the Premier League obituary is a touch premature with eight defining games left, but there was little salvageable at St Mary’s to suggest the tide can turn. Norwich’s players have lined up in recent weeks to insist they are fully behind their manager and the epic cause; that they understand the gravity of the situation and what is at stake for themselves as professionals and the thousands who invest love, loyalty and finance. Nothing in this latest fitful offering supported such laudable words.

There was a lack of conviction, an absence of leadership and when the goals rained in again - just as they did at Villa Park - fresh evidence perhaps that whoever pulls on the Norwich shirt has started to feel sorry for themselves. Such an accusation is an affront to the professional pride of a group whose character and spirit is unquestionable but perhaps the struggle appears too great, the sacrifice too much to rise when they falter, to hit back harder than they are hit.

Norwich’s brittleness and fragility was evident in a ferocious opening barrage from a vibrant Saints’ outfit who have an abundance of the creativity and inventiveness City crave.

Norwich’s team shape mimicked Mauricio Pochettino’s but you would scarcely believe it as the hosts poured forward with an instinctive freedom and refreshing ambition.

Morgan Schneiderlin nominally left his holding midfield role to break into the penalty box and slot past John Ruddy with barely five minutes gone. Gaston Ramirez had already planted an unmarked close range header over. Adam Lallana was the attacking pivot linking back to front and enticing two young full-backs to raid at will against direct opponents forced into reverse until Robert Snodgrass escaped the shackles of Luke Shaw to slot past Artur Boruc.

Hughton was berated by a frustrated travelling support as the game drifted away for trusting a set of players who had failed to deliver. A man routinely lambasted for his rigidity and refusal to broker change in tactics or personnel gave five of his squad a fresh chance in a major re-shuffle sparked by the home deadlock against Stoke. None remotely grabbed that opportunity.

Should City have returned from St Mary’s with a positive result and renewed belief ahead of the run-in Hughton would have been hailed for his willingness to freshen things up. Now he is harangued for what appears in hindsight a knee-jerk reaction bordering on panic as he attempts to unearth a sustainable formula for a Premier League relegation scrap that took on a new dimension following a desperate weekend where most of City’s foes picked up points.

Hughton is not exempt from the invective that erupted during the second half. Norwich’s manager has had longer than most of his peers in a volatile industry to construct a squad and develop a style and identity that is robust enough to hope for more than the same. This group of players at this critical phase of the season appear incapable of scoring goals when it really matters and preventing them on a consistent basis at the other end.

The vocal constituency who want Hughton gone grows exponentially with each chapter highlighting Norwich’s perceived limitations. They may get their wish in the fullness of time, but even the most ardent critic would not want to watch City meekly slip out of the top flight.

Much continues to be made of a hellish finale against the very best but they play four of their direct rivals before then, if one now assumes Swansea must share similar concerns as Norwich and the rest of the pack congregating towards the bottom following their weekend concession to a West Brom side who proved, at least for one 90 minutes, it is possible to pull out of a seemingly irreversible tailspin.

Norwich’s performance level in the past three games has plunged alarmingly. They deserved more from a fertile period that failed to harvest league points. The same can not be said at this juncture.

Faced with Southampton’s blurring speed and effortless economy they often resembled a rabble, a disparate collection of individuals counting the seconds until the final whistle to put them and those who follow them out of their misery.

City can still respond because they have managed to do so on numerous occasions in the past. Sunderland’s pending Premier League visit was always going to be an occasion to stir the blood. Now it is massive. But if they genuinely do feel sorry for themselves then all hope is lost and those who care passionately about Norwich City must prepare for a summer of upheaval.

141 comments

  • @dave123 - Agree but Steve Clarke not available (gardening leave) - Assume you're not CH so what's your plan B?

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    JMH

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I think I am beyond disappointed now and am accepting the inevitable. Let's be honest if we do survive it will be a travesty. We are that bad.

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    Bookface

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Malaga - Quite right. I remember BT Sport pundits saying it, MOTD pundits saying it, and various guest co-commentators on Radio Norfolk all saying it. These are all ex pros, yet when fans see and say the same things their opinions don't count and they are instead patronised by the likes of Mick Dennis and Darren Lewis. It's b**lsh*t!

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    Smudger75

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Johny - anyone claiming to be wise obviously isnt. Youre no exception. Youre an idiot.

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    Cecil

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Haylock`s Cuticle, you`re not a new manifestation of Shiny Bill, are you? Tell me you`re not! Pedicure, tonsure now manicure. This man is more elusive than that damn`d Scarlet P!mpernel, or the infamous Black Fingernail. Carry on, Citizens. I wonder if Hughton will ever get the chop? I cannot believe he hasn`t. Our team has been reduced from a group of feisty, committed and decent footballers, into a reluctant, random rabble. Even Tettey, when he fell over, clambered to his feet to watch the inevitable goal that ensued from his `slip`. Like a disinterested spectator. Little chance he could`ve influenced the outcome, but perhaps he might have. Not interested. Not good enough. Nothing was good enough. Soton barely had to try to beat us, which is why they got careless. That might rank as the rankest `performance` of a rank season.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • .....it would be interesting to know when Houghton picked that team...to me it looked as if it must have been on the bus ride down there...they made their introductions prior to kickoff...but how long did they spend training together as a team?...He has a problem next week as he usually drop the man of the match for the next game...this week there wasn't one!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • The title of this piece is only backed up by the optimistic hope that we might respond because we have done so in the past. Last season we escaped relegation and finished in a misleading final position because of two wins that could not have been foreseen. We need somethink more tangible this year at this stage. We need at least 9 points from the next 4 games.

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    Sprowstonboy

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Smudger75 - No, I really do not like Ipswich Town, and have probably been to far more Norwich matches than yourself down to the fact that I am very old. But the one good thing about getting old is you gain wisdom and without boasting, I think it is fair to say I am a very wise old man. So with this higher knowledge, I respectfully say to JMH, your ideas are ridiculous, why would you put Neil Adams in charge at the most important stage of the season ? There is no crisis at Norwich city except the crisis of panicking fans who arn't old or wise enough to yet realise that everything comes to he who waits, so stick with CH, wait and maybe wait a bit more and all will be well.

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    Johny

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • MB says CH is brilliant at winning important home games and that is why can't get rid of him before Sunderland. Sure. Like Villa, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham, and Stoke. We were brilliant in those games.

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    Cecil

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • The title of this piece is only backed up by the optimistic hope that we might respond because we have done so in the past. Last season we escaped relegation and finished in a misleading final position because of two wins that could not have been foreseen. We need somethink more tangible this year at this stage. We need at least 9 points from the next 4 games.

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    Sprowstonboy

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Hughton is like that guy at a party who at 10.00am still won't go home. Instead ambles over to the table, cracks open another can of warm Carlsberg and sits back down in the chair in the corner staring wildly in space as he sups on his beer as no one's brave enough to tell him to 'go home'.

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    Morgan Hewitt

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • That was attempt No.3. It seems the offending\offensive letter-string might have been `P!mpernel`.... yes! It was. FFS, Archie.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Haylock`s Cuticle, you`re not a new manifestation of Baldy Bill, are you? Tell me you`re not. Pedicure, tonsure now manicure. This man is more elusive than that damned Scarlet Pimpernel, or the infamous Black Fingernail. Carry on, Citizens. I wonder if Hughton will ever get the chop? I cannot believe he hasn`t. Our team has been reduced from a group of feisty, committed and decent footballers, into a disinterested, random rabble. Even Tettey, when he fell over, clambered to his feet to watch the inevitable goal that ensued from his `slip`. Like a disinterested spectator. Little chance he could`ve influenced the immediate outcome, but perhaps he might have. Not interested. Not good enough. Nothing was good enough. Soton barely had to try to beat us, which is why they got careless. That might rank as the rankest `performance` of a rank season.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • And `tit` is allowed too! Not Ar$enal, though. No way. Or c0ckiness, etc.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • Might as well start from scratch because what i saw on Saturday was a team with no confidence ,little ability and a clueless management team.Personally i would appoint Steve Clarke and go for broke!

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    dave123

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Waclor you're missing the point. It doesn't matter what I think. This is what we have until the end of the season. Either we survive or we don't. There's no point making a tough situation even worse by bellyaching all the time.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • The main priority is to find a man who can give the team a wind up before the game starts and let them know they need to perform to earn their over inflated pay cheques. Once again the central midfielders were flat footed and watched the Soton player breeze past without bothering to chase. This pattern has been repeated far too often this season, especially away from home. The two goals we scored flattered us and had Snodgrass not been alert the second gift chance would have been wasted by RVW, who tamely attempted a back pass rather than a decent shot at target.

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    TrevorKeith

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Finbarr Fanshawe, are you some relic from WW1, perhaps one of the generals who repeatedly sent young men to their death by saying one more charge young man? I hate to liken Norwichs plight to WW1 but your idiocy is similar.

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    Canaryinslovenia

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • It truly saddens me to say this but the Boards deafening silence shows a complete disregard for the lifeblood of our club ITS SUPPORTERS!!!!!!!!! When our chief exec spoke of death and relegation in the same breath we were given hope that Hughtons days were numbered, however even Saturdays pathetic no show left them unmoved. Can we expect any more comments from them any time soon? Frankly their small town country cousin club outlook shows they share Hughtons total lack of ambition. Had he rightly been shown the door today we could look forward to beating Sunderland and have real hope but with the clowns in charge I can only see ugly scenes at the end of the game. ALL AVOIDABLE!!!!!!! wE CAN just stay up but do the Board of Directors deserve to? Hughton is simply the worst manager we have ever had and that includes ROEDER. If and Board members lower themselves to read the Pink un pages PLEASE DO SOMETHING THIS WEEK BEFORE ITS TOO LATE. Ok i would love to see Neil Adams for the rest of the season but most managers in the Thurlow Nunn league could do a better job and inject passion. PLEASE GET RID THIS WEEK. I am sure if we went down fighting it would be better than this slow death

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    Mawther07

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • PS, I inhabited the poor end of Armes Street! My parents were invited to dinner by Church mice!

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Finbarr Fanshawe - I agree, the canaries fans are all bleating like lost sheep and have lost the ability to think individually. And Smudger75, it's your thoughts not mine which say I am wiser and of superior knowledge than yourself. (You may have a point though). But one more thought, why doesn't everyone calm down, it is only football !

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    Johny

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • It's easy to sit with a group of hostile fans calling for the manager to be sacked but one of the easiest things to do is to criticize. But Norwich fans are suffering from unrealistic expectations and would be better backing Chris Hughton and the team. I think he should be given plenty more time yet including next season.

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    Johny

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Morgan Hewitt. What a personally evocative name that is! My father worked for Morgan`s Brewery and I went to the Hewett (with an `E`) School. I appreciate your vision of Hughton. I sometimes see\hear him as Mike from The Young Ones, sometimes Trig from Fools & Horses, Father Dougall McGuire\or Father `boring` Stone from Father Ted, or even Rob Brydon`s classically crass Uncle Bryn from Gavin & Stacey. I never see him as a football manager, apart from the de rigueur chewing gum, fingers-in-mouth whistling and post-match platitudes. What we need, FF, is a bit more trench foot and guts. Quite right! White feathers all round! You`re not John Bridge are you?

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • That is spooky I still have my mahogany coffee table teat piece with ordinary straight legs instead of cabriole, considered too difficult by good old "Walter Williment and his buddy Bertie High, still my Dad French polished it and it looked pretty good though it is now in the loft as it does not go with the oak furniture, perhaps we could swap. Saw Basil Rathbone last year and he is still very with it which surprised me as I thought he must be really ancient, he seemed old when he taught me maths, then all the teachers appeared old. There were some dolly trainee teachers who came for experience though. Now what were we talking about, oh yes, NCFC well que sera sera it's nice having a break from it and reminiscing, Non Nobis Brew old boy.....

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    Gibbo

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • I sometimes wonder if some of the posters on here have ever had a proper paid job. If they had they would know that there is nothing like a lack of confidence in a leader to make the workers give up. The scenario is that of course all the players want to win and avoid relegation. They are prepared to work hard and fight for that goal until they see stupid decision after stupid decision from their manager making the task more difficult. They will soon take the view that if the manager is no help to them and the board don't care enough to sack the manager, why should they care. Hughton has from giving Vaughan away to dropping Wes after a man of the match display against Man U, shown that he in incompetent. The players' response is in the results. Take a look at them FF etc.

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    waclor

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • That has to be it Rootsrool; keep us out of the bottom three, there can be no other logical explanation. Trouble is,one they didn't see the fixture list before drawing up the contract, and two, it'll be too late by the time we do sink into the bottom three.

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    Bill Punton's bald patch

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • Well, once 90% of the content was removed, it went thro`. Skeletons, cupboards, dodgy transfers.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • why do some of you want neil adams?he has no experience in league football.the moment for me on saturday,was when hooper with a clear sight of goal from about ten yards coudnt even hit the target.and what did hoolahan do wrong last week.

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    bluelight

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I've been saying CH should go for over 12 months, I'm afraid he just doesn't instil confidence in our play or players (whatever they say). Is it now too late for him to go? No, far from it. As I've said before, we don't scare a single team, everyone who plays us believes they can beat us - especially if they get an early goal, then two... then three. Our only chance is to change that pattern, to throw them off course, to present something they're not sure of - a new set up, a new proposition, new tactics. Frankly, unless he goes, we're just the walking dead, waiting to be buried.

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    aeleven

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Well said, harry mcardle! I did that one too, being a Big `O` fanatic. `Golden Days before they end....` Though we should wait for Montserrat Caballé to intone. Another apposite Orbison would be `Running Scared`, except nobody seems to do much running, and nobody seems to care enough to be scared. We`ll be back recruiting in the Penny Arcade ere long.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Algarve C I totaly agree with you it's the same old nothingness that we hear from Hughton game after game it seems he can't inspire a team like Lambo couldcan.On Saturday when we got the ball there was usually 2 or 3 Southhampton players closing us down but when they got the ball there was not a city player within yards of them.I think that we are down so let's get a new manager in who can start to build a team that will get us back up to the premiership next year.OTBC

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    leslie cater

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Actually, Gibbo, I thing Mr. Benbow was the guy who taught me woodwork. Wasn`t there a Louis Grettin(?) who did metal, with `Jock` Murdoch? I remember Alan `Jim` Fenwick and his agent of Corporal Punishment - the dreaded plimsoll. He once called me out in front of the class and challenged me with "You don`t like me, do you Biscuit? Would you like to tell me why?" I said "I think you`re a bit of a nancy, Sir". On came the plimsoll. That nickname `biscuit` is a clue to my surname - H&P`s biscuits (the `P` bit). Don`t recall any of the names you mentioned. After 1Y, I went on thro` the `W`s until the 6th form years when I became an `M`. My first few days were actually in 1W, but I noticed that 2 of us answered to the same name so I raised it with the form teacher. Inevitably I was the one in the wrong class. story of my life. I was despatched to Bertie High`s all-boys academy forthwith. I was more an academic sort, though I did help found a hockey team which once played a Bishop of Norwich`s XI. The Bishop, Dr. Lancelot Fleming, even played!

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • They won't sack Hughton because, in my opinion, they have targeted Neil Lennon (Mackay is a secondary choice). Lennon would not come to us unless he knew we were going to be in the Premier League next season (who could blame him?). We could get a stop-gap (maybe looking within the club?) but they now have such little time to change this defensive mindset. In addition, I believe we now lack the talent to play any other way, anyhow! Snodgrass, Johnson, Tetley, RvW, Salamander, etc. all lack any kind of consistent first touch and therefore one touch football is out of the question. Any technically goodcreative player is currently out of form, annoyed or not match fit (thanks, Chris). I believe the board were close to sacking Hootun earlier in the season but (very fortunate) wins against West Ham and then Hull kept him in a job. If this is all true, it is a very poor show because it was blindingly obvious that those wins were exceptions amongst terrible results and insipid performances. I cannot stand Hughton. I'm still trying to decide if his lack of sense in squad selection and tactics is down to arrogance, or stupidity. Snodgrass and Johnson ALWAYS seem to be exempt from the cull. Positive results without Snodgrass in particular still don't seem to mean anything to Chrissy boy. The best we have played recently was against Man. City at home (Pilkington came in for Snodgrass). Next game, Snodgrass returned and we were awful again. Despite the apparent lack of options for a replacement manager, I still vote 'Hughton out' because I believe this would galvanize the crowd for home games. This, together with proper squad selection (please drop Johnson or Tettey for Howson or Fox!) could be enough to fire the team up and get us over the line.

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    Matey

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Don't the backroom staff talk to each other? Surely in this dire situation others, like Neil Adams should be brought in to help with the tactics & team selection. Maybe even "Garden Leave" for the Manager & his staff, after all it's the season for it!!

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    codger8

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Its too late to do anything now.Roy Orbison time (its over)

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    harry mcardle

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • The performance on Saturday was the worst in a season where there have been many contenders. There seems to be no distinction between defence and midfield, so that the formation has become 1 - 9 - 1. As a result, the 9 pass the ball sideways (Ray Wilkins was dubbed "the crab" at Chelsea for this, but NCFC seem to have mastered it as a team) and when some enterprising visionary passes it forwards, possession is lost. In ineptitude, it reminded me of the 1 - 7 Colchester reverse; I wonder if the Saints' manager might be available next week?

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    Tunbridge Wells Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • .....And the saints fans sang" We feel sorry for you Norwich" Even they could see the surrender, and took little pleasure in their victory.

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    Hants Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't " (remember it from somewhere, probably John Wayne).

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    Lincs Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Agree with VictorM about the sound of silence coming from the board. Why? A que sera sera attitude to survival? Perhaps they have done their sums and believe they can cope whatever fate delivers. Is that acceptable? Well, the hardest thing for fans to do is "sack the board", particularly when they are the owners. And would it be right to turn on Delia and hubby who have taken us from near bankruptcy to being one of a few profit making clubs in the PL? An analysis of their tenure however reveals a rollercoaster ride when uninspired choices of managers brought us close to extinction before the fortuitous appointment of Lambert. Truth is our owners, by top flight standards, are "poor millionaires" who are unable to top up the tv money so we can really compete in the transfer market. Their comfort zone is probably the Championship and perhaps that is affecting their judgement regarding our current run. One final poser, are they tiring of it all and ready to listen to offers?

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    Lincs Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Rotts, I checked a week or two back in respect of that "CH's brief is to keep us out of the bottom 3" statement that McN came out with in January. We were in the bot 3 (from memory just now) early in the season for about 3or 4 games. Since then we have hovered just above the zone along with another 8 or 9 teams. So if it is in his contract to remain out of the bottom 3 he could have been sacked in the autumn. I have no idea what his contract actually says but I doubt if it plainly states CH can be sacked ONLY if the team drops into the bottom 3. There might, as we all fear, come a time when we drop into the bottom3 but with enough games left to scrape clear. And another time when we are bottom 3 and cannot escape. When does the board decide enough is enough? No idea. One final depressing thought however, and the one thing I do know about CH's contract, is that it has over another year to run. The board might decide to honour it!

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • Whats all this "old" thing got to do with it. I'm "old", but have been a supporter for 40 years. My son and two grandsons are season ticket holders and they all think CH is cr@p as well!!

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    tom the taxi

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Johny - Are you a wind-up merchant? Ip5h1t fan? Or maybe you are Mick Dennis in disguise?

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    Smudger75

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Johny- Its time for lights out in your rest home!

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    dave123

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • My nan lived on the corner of Waddington Street and Armes street and my uncle Alfred cut hair in the corner shop, he also owned the Gibraltar Gardens PH near the Mile Cross bridge. A lot of my early life was spent round that area and I often enjoyed vimto and crisps in the back room of the Bread and Cheese (Queen Victoria) while my parents and family supped in the bar. Were you the Little John end or the Perseverance end. My mate K H aka Keith Hope married the granddaughter of the owner of the L J , she also went to the Hewett as did my wife. The guy who lost his eye was Barry something and yes Bruce B was a fellow rugby player it was Brearly.

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    Gibbo

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Steady on, old chaps!! We're not DOOMED!!!! Last time I consulted the old league table there were a few still below us and I couldn't hear the dulcet tones of the Fat Lady!! Of course, if you are convinced that our demise is imminent, BET365 are offering an enticing looking 74 about us getting relegated. Invest £4 of your hard earned, or otherwise, income and receive £11 back. £40 and it's £110!! Fancy getting that score the wrong way round Smudger? Are you a closet binner or is it just that the fat lady is singing in your house and it somewhat put you off?

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    Finbarr Fanshawe

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I understand how difficult it is for clubs like us to stay in the Premier League but to die of boredom whilst getting relegated is surely just cruelty in the extreme. Come on board, liven the last few games up for us all!

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    Deehanna

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Nice article Paddy! Articulate and concise , voicing all the concerns of the supporters. Well said.

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    kenfoggo

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Coming from in-between Norwich and Ipswich it is sad to see both of these fine East Anglian teams struggling. Yes I see Ipswich struggling. As I now live in the USA I do get to see City on the TV and I must say they are not a team, they are a bunch of so called footballers that really don't have the team at heart, the game at Southampton proved that, I hope that City stay up it will be hard but they may just get there, I'm not a city supporter but it is good for East Anglia. As I said I'm an inbetweener, OTBC and COYB

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    usasoccer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I thought the motorbike place was Tinkler`s, Gibbo. I went there about 7 years ago on my new Indian-made Royal Enfield, and it was full of modern whizzy biking gizmos and paraphernalia. Northumberland St. opposite Clark`s factory. I went to school with Linda Ketteringham - I guess you did too? Ketteringham`s was a `Jet` petrol station. Another `corner shop` was Lenny Grints. He had kindling in sweet jars! There was another little sweet shop tucked up the end of Little Arms St., near Gray`s storage yard. Made their own brightly coloured cubic ice lollies. So cold they stuck to you! One good suck & all the colour & flavour came out, leaving a block of plain ice! I never had a haircut by Mr. Curson - I went to Dove`s which is over Nelson St. from the now Fat Cat. I`ve had many a bag of chips from that particular Valorie`s. I don`t get out much, Gibbo, but now we`re nearly thro` the winter, I`d like to meet for a mardle\beer etc. sometime.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, March 20, 2014

  • Saturdays team revealed a lot about CH. Gone were the vestiges of creativity (WesRedmond) and in came the heavy brigade, the plodders, the unfit Pillkington so to speak. It seemed management was saying we had a chance of winning against Stoke but no chance against the Saints. A draw at best against the Saints, a strategy which looked like 90% defense and 10% offense. But the inevitable happened. As the enterprising Saints attack swarmed around, the Norwich defense broke down and we found ourselves down 30 before the opposition decided to gift us 2 goals. Essentially, devoid of attacking capacity Norwich had no response. It's was a sad picture but one which seems to be in favour at Carrow Rd.but one innevitably flawed. Very early in the season we beat a very listless almost clueless Saints team. Since then the Southampton team has rallied and now stands on 45 points and plays with flair, confidence and 3 England players. How does that happen. Can we point to their management promoting a positive strategy to the game and fostering a belief in the teams ability to win. Yes I think we can and it is so much more refreshing than facing negativity week after week. Promoting drudgery to the field and relegating flare and skill to the back of the bench. CH you have it all wrong. Your strategy has demoralized your players who now play with little energy, flare or commitment. Any time is a good time to stop the rot!!

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    Pritch

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Good posts by TK and Algarve. Agree completely. Good article too. I too noticed the complete lack of interest displayed by the players efforts and body language as the Saints goals went in. A lack of any real attempts to track back, chase the ball down and get blocks in etc. Very concerning. It was the same at Villa and at one or two other capitulations this season. I had first noticed it in one particular player for much of this season - Mr. Bassong, our illustrious captain. He always seems to shrug his shoulders when we concede or make excuses, rather than rallying his troops or organising the defence. Perhaps the rot set in from there and is effecting the rest of the team now.....

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    Smudger75

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • For two seasons now fans have had to endure the least entertaining football I have ever seen anywhere. Pass sidways, pass back then a short pass forwards where the ball is inevitaby lost to the opposition who then walk through the City defence and another boring game is lost. Players with no drive or conscience.

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    goldie

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • The last time our club subscribed to such complacency, Johny, we ended up (down) in L1. Yes, let`s wait patiently, for all will come - to grief. I don`t think many folk were expecting a miracle under Hughton, just consolidation. What we got was disintegration. And dreadful football.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • It must be hard to be in the boards' shoes, here they are in the Prem. with money rolling in, now looking down the barrel at relegation, what to do now. The incumbent manager is doing what was asked of him, he came with a good record, having done well at his previous clubs but deep down they know that the results are not what they expected. The reasons are hard to pin down, OK he has had quite a few players injured but that is the point of having a squad of twenty odd players to fill in and rotate as necessary, so it must come down to the coachmanager and his backroom staff not providing the game plans and motivation but then the players shouldn't need motivating as they are professionals and playing for their families, club and most importantly, us the supporters. So the buck is not entirely in the managers lap. I can accept defeat but it is the manner of it that galls me, just to roll over and lie down is not what you expect from eleven professional men, perhaps a visit to a sports psychologist or doing a twelve hour shift in a factory would just give them the jolt they need. It's too easy to say "sack the manager" there are so many variables in the equation and when all the planets align you get the perfect result, a la Lambert & Co but the planets don't line up that often and one day it will happen again, hope I'm still around to see it. By the way Brew I was at the Hewett 1959- 64, great school.

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    Gibbo

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • Johny - Clearly, because you are 'old' (how do you define that), that makes you wiser and of superior knowledge than I. My view is therefore worthless in comparison, and I will go back to my Star Wars and Action Man toys and refrain from polluting this board any further with my juvenile and ill conceived opinions based on my limited knowledge, life & football experience. Thanks for not being condescending at all when you put me right however. Although, as Finbarr says, I'm probably just a closet binner anyway.

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    Smudger75

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I remember playing hockey, in those days the goalies were not padded up and the sports master Bruce Beacham hit a shot that just whistled past my head, dread to think what would have happened if it had struck me, might have knocked some sense in, it's a dangerous game, someone lost an eye, can't remember his name but KH hit him with his stick. I'll take rugby any time.

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    Gibbo

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Listening to the match on radio partridge was, from a Norwich perspective, like watching paint dry. An ideal accompaniment given that I was actually decorating the bedroom at the time.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Just as my Happiness Consultant, Dubai Canary, starts to `get real`, Johny appears on the scene.....

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I would love to see hughtons contract, but I suspect the reason the clown hasn't been fired yet, is that his contract states that he must keep us out of the bottom 3, which he's done, and if the board fires him while they are above the bottom 3 they will owe him a tidy sum in severance . In my opinion he doesn't deserve a single penny. Here's my solution, throw him into the boot of a car and dump him out on the outskirts of Norwich. OR ever see mad max3 beyond thunderdome, when they sent max into the desert on a horse with a clowns mask. perfect for hughton. Hughton has absolutely ruined a team that had potential this season.

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    Rottsrool

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • At last an objective piece of writing from Archant hack pointing out what everbody else has known for a long while. Yet still there is no run out for Becchio, will someone ask the question, where is he? All this dross, all the excuses, surely he cannot be any worse than some of the others? He never went in the transfer window because he was necessary as part of the squad yet all he does is sit on the bench.

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    blackdog2

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • watching the game you could see the players hearts were not in it,but you have to ask why?No professional players should walk out onto the pitch and stroll around for ninety minutes and not really give a damn.Thats what i saw saturday and a few ex players have commented on it as well.Everyone needs a good kick up the ar#e this week and start earning their huge salaries!That includes Hughton and his cronies!

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    tonyb

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Relic? RELIC? Heavens above!! I'm saying we should fight to the end, man!!! What's the alternative? Bleat about who is to blame? Humbly accept relegation because you don't have the minerals to stand and get behind your team? You people are the by-product of a Nanny state. Man up or stay at home.

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    Finbarr Fanshawe

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Brew I went to Avenue Road school, can't remember Linda K but worked at UCP with, I guess her bro John who happens to live down the road from me. Mon or Tuesday lunch best times for me, babysitting other days, can you make either. Don't know where I got Slaughters from.

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    Gibbo

    Friday, March 21, 2014

  • It must be hard to be in the boards' shoes, here they are in the Prem. with money rolling in, now looking down the barrel at relegation, what to do now. The incumbent manager is doing what was asked of him, he came with a good record, having done well at his previous clubs but deep down they know that the results are not what they expected. The reasons are hard to pin down, OK he has had quite a few players injured but that is the point of having a squad of twenty odd players to fill in and rotate as necessary, so it must come down to the coachmanager and his backroom staff not providing the game plans and motivation but then the players shouldn't need motivating as they are professionals and playing for their families, club and most importantly, us the supporters. So the buck is not entirely in the managers lap. I can accept defeat but it is the manner of it that galls me, just to roll over and lie down is not what you expect from eleven professional men, perhaps a visit to a sports psychologist or doing a twelve hour shift in a factory would just give them the jolt they need. It's too easy to say "sack the manager" there are so many variables in the equation and when all the planets align you get the perfect result, a la Lambert & Co but the planets don't line up that often and one day it will happen again, hope I'm still around to see it. By the way Brew I was at the Hewett 1959- 64, great school.

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    Gibbo

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • Johny it is a football board so you are bound to get comments by people who are upset about football. What were you expecting, a recipe for sponge cakes?

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    waclor

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • OMG! Dubai`s back on the Premier Pollyanna Potion. Just when I thought he`d mended his ways. Never mind, as long as he`s happy. Bless.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I think it was 'much more serious than that'. Know what you mean about Lambert. Though I could never make out his post-match analyses I enjoyed watching Lambert's Norwich. Not Hughton's though. And that's the main reason I want him to go; stay up or go down. We do not play sexy football.

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    Cecil

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • There`s still a motorbike place in Northumberland St., but I just cannot remember the name. My first ever motorbike (a 150cc Francis Barnett) failed its MOT there!

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Brew I stayed on to try to get the O's I failed the previous year and was in L6M, our form mistress was miss Meadows and the form room was in the new block below Archie Moore's art room. I have mentioned you to KH and he thinks he knows you through your confrontations with Jim Fenwick, you have my sympathies as I was slippered by him quite a few times but I liked him. I remember him threatening to make a girl walk the plank from the classroom window just because she contradicted him on the pronouncement of "Neanderthal", she told her mum and Jim got told off, they never got on after that. The worst one was Prycey he would hit you with the leathered end of the climbing ropes, very painful. I think I know you but you being more an academic our paths didn't cross too much, were you in Magdalen House, I was in Conesford (green). By the way I was sometimes called toothpaste. What part of the city did you hail from I inhabited the poor end of Unthank Road.

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    Gibbo

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Another game lost by a totally inept manager and players. There may be eight games left to play.The last four games are against four of the top sides in the country, Chelsea, Arsenal and LIVerpool are title chasing. Man. Utd. being the fourth. They may be a side adrift at the moment but will N City be a threat to them? So the fight for survival hinges on the next four games. All against opposition in the same boat as City. Can this hapless, hopeless bunch of players manager and coaches gain maximum points from the lesser teams? At the moment it is hard to see where even one point is going to come from. On the evidence shown week in an week out it is quite conceiveable that they will not gain another point. Us , the fans, have been offered promise after promise as to how this team will start to play with heart and win games. To date, there has been no sign of fight or improvement. It has been a disgusting surrender by the board , management and especialy by the players. The only people who have shown faith, fight and desire to stay in the permiership have been the supporters. We deserved better. We do not receive massive financial reward . We have to spend massively.

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    norman hall

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Jack Adams & the sadistic Welshman, John Price, put me off Rugby!!

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Saturdays team revealed a lot about CH. Gone were the vestiges of creativity (WesRedmond) and in came the heavy brigade, the plodders, the unfit Pillkington so to speak. It seemed management was saying we had a chance of winning against Stoke but no chance against the Saints. A draw at best against the Saints, a strategy which looked like 90% defense and 10% offense. But the inevitable happened. As the enterprising Saints attack swarmed around, the Norwich defense broke down and we found ourselves down 30 before the opposition decided to gift us 2 goals. Essentially, devoid of attacking capacity Norwich had no response. It's was a sad picture but one which seems to be in favour at Carrow Rd.but one innevitably flawed. Very early in the season we beat a very listless almost clueless Saints team. Since then the Southampton team has rallied and now stands on 45 points and plays with flair, confidence and 3 England players. How does that happen. Can we point to their management promoting a positive strategy to the game and fostering a belief in the teams ability to win. Yes I think we can and it is so much more refreshing than facing negativity week after week. Promoting drudgery to the field and relegating flare and skill to the back of the bench. CH you have it all wrong. Your strategy has demoralized your players who now play with little energy, flare or commitment. Any time is a good time to stop the rot!!

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    Pritch

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • As I said on another feed, who are NCFC's first 11? The usual practice is to use the first few weeks of the new season for the manager to work this out but here we are, 2 months from the end of the season, with a first 2 (Ruddy & Snodgrass) and 9 others picked using the National Lottery machine or ERNIE (remember Premium Bonds?). I think the players are behind Houghton - in the queue for the exit door.

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    Eastangler

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Yes the Board WILL fire him, simply because they cannot afford not to! This seasons performances have proved that Hughton is not a good fit for this club. The position demands a strong personality who can motivate some obviously low quality players. Hughton is NOT that man. Lambert was, Hughton is NOT. He has proved that we cannot look to him to provide ANY kind of improvement, we have consistently got worse and worse. 7 wins out of 30 starts!!!! And it is not just the raw results, it is the manner in which they have been conducted. So the Board cannot afford to leave him in charge for the final 8 games, relegation would be inevitable. Unless that is what the Board has already reconciled itself to?

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    kenfoggo

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I was in L6M too, Gibbo, with teacher i\c Miss Meadows. She threw me out of `English` (Greek mythology) for talking about a fruit grower instead of flute blower. I broke Richard Cogman`s nose in a hockey practice one evening. It is a dangerous game, you should try playing it against females. Lethal. Wasn`t that sports master Brearley, rather than Beacham? Memories so distant. I was in Bishop House, I think. along with Ivan Bishop. We had a hockey goalie with diabetes. He once flaked out in goal `cos he was too slow on the draw with his hypodermic. Oates - `Titus`? Who`s `KH`?

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Well that's shankly.com, The Daily Fail and the University of Wikipedia all agree that he said. As he was more impenetrable even than Paul Lambert, who knows.

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Try again. Is it possible there is a reason the Board are afraid to sack Hughton?

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • I believe the team we have is just average? the manager we have is below average if not useless. so lets get rid of the Manager as it would be cheaper than replacing the squad of players. A new Manger might just turn our average playes into a team with spirit guile and above all the compassion and fight to win. CH OUT OUT .

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    Keep it Low

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • As blackdog2 says, it`s good to see that The Padster has re-invented himself and moved away from all that old weasel-worded tosh about `detractors, dissenters and those on the periphery`. I applaud you for that PD, and I liked your article. Not too prolix at all this time. Blimey, even el dingo liked it!! Good spot by Burglecut - the article itself was a non sequitur of the headline. You`re a survivor all right, Paddy. A very slick change of horses. That`s nicer than the rat\sinking ship metaphor. I`ve just been using my crayon set to colour code City performances to date. I have 18 bad\terrible and 12 fair\good. My marking was lenient - tended to give a `good` to wins even if they were awful performances. An exception was the 1-0 win over Hull, that was bad.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Well said Paddy Davitt, your opening paragraph says it all. Glad to see a journo having the courage to write this.

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    CanaryWest

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Yes that was my uncle, the mcycle place was it Slaughters, not forgetting Basingthwaites shop near the now Fat Cat, got many fish n chip meals from Valories fish shop in Nelson Street which stood opposite Ketteringham's garage The Dolphin swimming baths, so many memories, if you fancy a pint and a mardle let me know.

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    Gibbo

    Thursday, March 20, 2014

  • The only real idiot is Dubai if he thinks FF is real...no it isn't me... a d Dubai probably lives in Felthorpe anyway

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    el dingo

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Cull the Calderwood, Wallop the Trollope and Hoof the Hughton! Oh, and Appoint the Adams and Haul in the Huckerby (albeit on a temporary basis until the end of the season!). Hell, even dear old Gunny managed to get a new manager bounce in his first game (though admittedly it didn't last long).

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    Adams is God

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Particularly Fulham Cecil. Bin the idiot please. Otherwise it's like keeping a car because you're afraid to get rid of it because you might get something wusser. CH is aPolski Fiat. Middle aged folks will get my meaning.

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    el dingo

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Gibbo, I was there `59-66. Mr. Hesketh persuaded my dad to let me stay on and take `A` levels. `Esso` Hesketh was a great man. As you say, a terrific school with some inspirational teachers. And I learned metalwork and woodwork! I still have my `O` level woodwork teat-piece, a small oak coffee table which included dovetails, bridle joints and buttons. And a sole surviving toasting fork from metalwork which included brazing and soldering. I made a batch as Xmas presents for my many aunties, all slightly different designs. I rambleth.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • This is bigger than just hughton, the whole attitude of the club it pitiful. "Staying out of the bottom three is success"... Why? Why can't the board aim for something more positive than this dross! In the summer we need fresh thinking ambitious chairman, like cortese was at southampton to shake things. I'm not saying we SHOULD be competing for Europe, but with the potential this club has with it's loyal fans who still go away in thousands all over the country. With a young manager, hungry and wants to play attacking football the sky is the limit. The thinking from top down is "were little old Norwich" we need more ambition. I think delia has been amazing for this club, and hope she continues to be... But I think other board members need to be looked at. We need an overhaul.

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    ncfcchristof

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Walcor, we are as good as down on that performance .... Woeful, inept, and insipid, despite Ruddy's best efforts. Perhaps relegation may benefit us in terms of regenerating spirit within the camp?

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    Soglio Star

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Like it 'Stew', HOUGHTON OUT !!!!!

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    Lobbo

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Don't the backroom staff talk to each other? Surely in this dire situation others, like Neil Adams should be brought in to help with the tactics & team selection. Maybe even "Garden Leave" for the Manager & his staff, after all it's the season for it!!

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    codger8

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Hmmm.. your aged relis don't have a monopoly on military service FF. My Grandad was similarly employed in the WW1 mud + served his country with distinction. Much as he loved his country, he always maintained a healthy disrespect for it's ruling tofts + the way they mis-directed that conflict. That's all the good folk on here are doing. The fans pay the players wages + are entitled to their say. After all we fought for democracy...didn't we..? OTBC.

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    Timbo

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Lobbo, I too cant believe that Hughtons still here. I hoped today he would have been axed with a temporary man at the helm. I reckon for Sunderland, put a cardboard cut-out of Lambert on the sidelines, lock Hughton & co in the changing rooms and the cut-out will probably inspire our players more than Hughton ever has!

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    Henry

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • One thing that remains constant during this debacle is the silence of the board and the CEO. They cannot be ignorant of the vitriol and unrest of the supporters yet they choose to say and do nothing. Surely they owe the fans more respect and should be responding in some way.

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    VictorM

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Well that is what shankly.com, The Daily Mail and Wikipedia all agree that he said. However, as he was more impenetrable than Paul Lambert, who knows?

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • `teat piece`. Wow, that was my best ever typo! Test piece. The letters are wearing off my keboard. There are folk who will not be surprised by that. I AM surprised that Archie even let `teat` through. I feel a complete tit.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • sorry meant 'end of last season'

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    e18 canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Ruddy always kicks the ball to Snodgrass's wing, on Saturday he did it with Snodgrass running past him from the left back position. I actually saw every player on the pitch in that zone, playing like school kids. Tettey was infuriatingly lazy. Every task was someone else's job. High point was taking the mickey out of the open mouthed Saints fans because we'd actually managed to score two goals. I wouldn't pay another penny to contribute to anyone of their wages.

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    Gruff

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • The next four games are against clubs fighting relegation. Out of the last four games, three of the opposition are fighting to be champions. The other one is against Man.Utd, however much in decline, should roll over N City quite easily. Having won only three games in three months it is hard to see City gettting any points from the lowly teams and impossible against the strogner teams. Will RipWan Winkel and Hooper suddenly become a deadly striking force? Will the midfield become creative and a threat. Will the defence stop running around clueless ?Has CH a " Cunning plan" ? Or are we doomed ?

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    norman hall

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Thanks for your response Little Yellow Bird but I an of the view that if Hughton stays we are doomed so it makes no difference whether we damn with faint praise like McNally, support him like Steady On (where is he by the way?) or abuse him the way the majority of the posters here are doing. Our only chance is to get rid of huim and do it now. If Hughton stays we will go down.

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    waclor

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • In brewing, there are 3 grades of Finings. F, FF, and FFF, aka Finings - Fick Finings - and F*****g Fick Finings. In football, there are Fans, Fickle Fans and F*****g Finbarr Fanshawe.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Yes, we all want City to survive. But whether we do or we don't I don't want Hughton any more. Replacing him now is a risk but keeping him is a greater risk. Nothing has been said or done today so I'm assuming we are keeping him. And I'll be behind the team on Saturday as usual. I have never withdrawn my support for Norwich City only my support for Chris Hughton. Happy-clappers seem never to have understood that.

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    Cecil

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Gibbo, a huge and hugely nostalgic message was wiped out by Archie. Was your barbering Uncle Mr. Curson? I was more Little John end. My dad used the `C0ck` or the Nelson, depending on who he`d fallen out with. The Perseverance is off Nelson Street, not Armes Street, surely? Opposite-ish of the Fat Cat, which was the New Inn. At the bottom of the hill, at the junction of Armes St. with Old Palace Road, was the Adelaide. My late partner`s brother lived on the opposite corner to the Little John. She used to say "you can take the boy out of Armes Street, but you`ll never take Armes Street out of the boy". Prentice`s shop. Wright`s Stores. The funfair depot at end of Little Arms St. (No e). Motorbike place in Northumberland St. (name escapes me). Clarke`s shoes....

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Excellent piece Paddy, should be pinned on the dressing room wall. It's one thing to be beaten by a better team but to resign in the manner which we have against Villa and Southampton is alarming. Even if it wasn't for those last four games you would say that we have the look of a team that's doomed. It must be apparent to the board that under Hughton we're gone, it's a no lose situation to bring a new man in. The main issue now is motivation and belief, that's something a new man could offer which this joker patently cannot!

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    Haylock's Cuticle

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • its all to late, he should have gone the back end of octearly november, and yes they simply did not look bothered by their display

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    Dave

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • We've barely brushed the relegation places all season yet now we're certainties for the drop? I'm glad my grandfather didn't have you white-flag waving, lily-livered surrender-monkies alongside him in the trenches. It's time to dig in men!! Show a bit of mettle and pride, get behind your fellow canaries and encourage not berate!! We're strong at home and a couple of good results will be enough. Cowards, the lot of you!!

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    Finbarr Fanshawe

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Okay here are my thoughts. Please feel free to rubbish them or comment on them. Put CH on gardening leave - like that avoid paying him compensation - Put adams in charge (caretaker only and advise his job is safe) for the last 8 games (1million bonus if we stay up) - He can choose his captain (i'd be tempted to go for Howson but his choice not really bothered) - Whether we stay up or go down get Tim Sherwood for next season as Spurs will get rid of him anyway. Don't want to talk about Saturday and am not a member of the board - Thanks for listening

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    JMH

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • @Johny - because I can't see how CH can help us. Leaving aside his tactics, I don't believe that he can get the best out of our players - we need a man manager who can instil belief and fight in the in the players.

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    JMH

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • ….Hot off the Press!....Mr McNally has ordered that the all seating in the bottom three rows are to be removed all around the ground, and replaced with stools from a Whitlingham Farm...except for the visitors section...This will enable Hughton to see clearly what it is like to be in 'muck and bullets' and avoid the bottom three at all costs...even if it means playing Hoolahan and Hooper at the same time....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • ff, you are joking or you are a joke. Which?

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    Cecil

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • A really perceptive and well written piece. I hope the article is printed in both the EDP and EEN, (I cant tell from out here in Portugal) David McNally and his board can no longer ignore the inevitable. They have to act now. We may not survive under a new or interim manager, BUT, we certainly wont under Chris Hughton. He and his team are dead men walking. A new face in the driving seat may just....JUST, give us that desperately needed lift. without it, we are finished as a viable force this season

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    Algarve Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Are you serious Johny? "..why doesn't everyone calm down, it is only football !" I need only to refer you to the much misquoted Bill Shankly on that subject. "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.”

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I am afraid SC that you too have misquoted Shankly. No matter, the meaning is the same. We supporters are not calm, we are not complacent, we will not go gentle into that good night. We want to save our club from certain death under Hughton. The death that is the Championship. McNally's sentiments, not mine.

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    Cecil

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Chelsea have the "special one", unfortunately we at City are stuck with the "dull boring characterless one" and regretfully this has rubbed off on the players too. However for some reason only known to our board they're allowing him to stick to his task like chewing gum to the bottom of a shoe. How sad that they don't have any regard for we who pay good hard earned money to watch the pathetic zero entertainment stuff that's churned out on the pitch every week under the current sad regime.

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    Honest Injun

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Morgan - I like that description. It would also fit that dullard comment poster CanaryWest.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • All looks pretty reasonable stuff, JMH. Maybe Sherwood sure would be good, but does he have his own back-room team? If\when Hughton goes, Calderwood, Trollope and the anonymous clique of psychiatrists, psychologists, nutritionists, fitnessists, tonsorialists, tattooists, etc must go too. The list ist endless. The team is listless.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I'm going to say it 'cos it's true. Good piece Mr Davitt.

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    el dingo

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • A good article on yet another bad performance. As the run-up to the end of the season continues, it feels like one of those YouTube clips of a guy in a squirrel-suit trying to fly down a ski-run and through an implausible gap in the rocks. At this stage I can only pray that we don't hit the rocks.

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Odd how a few on here still appear to think Hughton and his now uncommitted players can lead us out of this mess. And that the fans here are all misguided and wrong to criticise. Perhaps those people ought to take a look at what the independent media is saying about Norwich City? They are saying the same as most of us. So presumably these people (some of whom are ex-professional footballers) are also cowards ? Fans have always argued and often criticised their team. It was always thus. Only that it used to be confined to the pubs. One other thing - it may only be football. But it has an £80 million tag on it. So actually it is quite a big deal.

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    malaga flier

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Gibbo; Rudyard Kipling did very good School songs! That noise which men call fame, that dross which men call gold.... For these we undergo our hot and Godless days, Non Nobis Dominé, not unto us the praise. I`m almost tearful here.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • Tinkers, definitely on Northumberland St, close to Peruzzi's where I used to take old newspapers for pennies. Used to get my sweets at Dacks on the corner of Hotblack Road and Atthill Road on the way home from Wensum View.

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    kenfoggo

    Thursday, March 20, 2014

  • Hughton is like that guy at a party who at 10.00am still won't go home. Instead ambles over to the table, cracks open another can of warm Carlsberg and sits back down in the chair in the corner staring wildly in space as he sups on his beer as no one's brave enough to tell him to 'go home'.

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    Morgan Hewitt

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • What worries is a quote I saw from Howson saying we need a little bit of "luck." Everyone knows that when you're down at that end of the table you rarely get the rub of the green, For "luck" substitute determination, hard graft, belief passion or, preferably, all four.

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    Flying Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Just got in from work, can't believe he's still there. I honestly thought that CH would get the BIG E today thus giving the new incumbent 4 relatively easy games to get us flying. Conspiracy theories abound, how can he still be there. Shorts are packed we're going south for sure! If by some miracle we do survive, just see how 'steady on' and ummmm can't remember them now (as it's been so long since they've posted), come out of the woodwork to fire of "I told you so salvo". and do you know, if we do survive, it's what we all want anyway.

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    Lobbo

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Brew, you were in the all boys form, I think I started in 1V, did you know Keith Harrison, Keith Hope Keith Robertson Peter Stone. I was more a sports person than academic,played for the Lakenham- Hewett RFUOBoys and am a VP at the club. Remember "Jim" Fenwick the history teacher we had the same Christian names A**n Ge***e. I think the metalwork teacher was called Mr. Benbow and yes "Ben Burgess " scared me also. Can you give a small hint as to your name. I hope people who read this don't think it is a blind dating site.

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    Gibbo

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • I'm going to say it 'cos it's true. Good piece Mr Davitt.

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    el dingo

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Have the journos finally woken up to the real plight of Norwich City afters months of flirting with the anyone that will give them attention at NCFC? Good article some credit, I suspect PD only got it through the NCFC censors due to the misleading headline

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    Burglecut

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Little Yellow Birdie, are you Hughton's mother? You must be the last man who cannot see that this man is inept and the players just are not playing for him. His selections are woeful and the results of his incompetence entirely predictable. The only hope is a semi renaissance brought about by a change at the helm. IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE.

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    waclor

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I went online this morning expecting the sack news but if they're lining up Lennon that's why. Could Hughton and Lennon be more opposite? My quick prediction run down of all the fixtures for the bottom 11 of the PL has final position of 14th for NCFC on 36 points with Cardiff, Palace and West Brom relegated. We're not the only ones with difficult fixtures between now and the end. Despite everything we've got to get behind the team on Saturday. Sunderland is the biggest must win since, er , oh the end of least season

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    e18 canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • We seem to give the opposition so much time to decide what they want to do. I saw a camera angle behind the Rodriguez (I think) shot that hit the barpost late on. From his angle, the whole goal was open despite nearly the entire team being behind the ball. The only city player in the shot was blocking Ruddy but not the majority of the goal or even looking remotely as if he would challenge for the ball.

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • I must have known you, Gibbo. Hint as to real name? I was totally anonymous, even at home.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

  • i was at the game on Saturday sadly the players werenot.They seem to have begun their summer break already.The two goals were due to complacency from Southampton defenders rather than anything that Norwich did.They can not score can not defend and do not seem to care and that is all don to tne manager.

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    jack1888

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • And the season started with such a sense of optimism, on the basis of what - at the time - seemed to be welcomed as shrewd and ambitious signings. I don't think CH is the man for City (what a surprise!). Paul Lambert sides wouldn't surrender in the way we've been doing recently; and CH has had enough time to mould his own team. On the other hand, I'm not sure that sacking him now (look at other teams who've done that) is going to change anything. The only thing I feel sure about at the moment, amid all the gloom, is that he won't be our manager next season. Sigh.

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    wurzelcanary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • The only way Norwich's tailspin into the Championship can be averted is if Hughton is replaced. The club have made an almighty mistake by not sacking him towards the end of last year. The fans, the players and the media I would say are sick and tired of this tedious, cruel and damaging end game in which Norwich will unnecessarily fall from the Premiership from keeping a manager in his position that has consistently failed to get the best out of his squad.

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    komakino

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Well said Finbarr - what is needed is some fighting mentality and some never say die spirit. No point saying we are doomed and for the drop - better to face our demons down, look them squarely in the eye and tell them they are in for one hell of a fight !! Whatever it will take to keep us up we must give it everything now and some more.

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    Dubai Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Spot on Algarve. But as I said in another post on another article, Finding anyone with the right abilities and ambition may be very difficult at this stage when Championship football seems inevitable. But we are now in a no lose situation so have nothing to lose by changing. CH has lost it - and the players - totally.

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    andy

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Tell that to so called players, not the fans, who actually do work to earn their wages. Never seen such a lazy lot of players, any other jobs they would be sacked. As for manager, (haha) , well they would be moved on with golden handshake for failure. PLEASE PLEASE PAY THEM OFF

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    norman feek

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Johny - Clearly, because you are 'old' (how do you define that), that makes you wiser and of superior knowledge than I. My view is therefore worthless in comparison, and I will go back to my Star Wars and Action Man toys and refrain from polluting this board any further with my juvenile and ill conceived opinions based on my limited knowledge, life & football experience. Thanks for not being condescending at all when you put me right however. Although, as Finbarr says, I'm probably just a closet binner anyway.

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    Smudger75

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Anyone at the game calling for Hughton out in the stands at this stage is a self-indulgent fool and all they can hope to achieve is further undermine already fragile confidence. We have what we have until the end of the season. Either they survive or they don't. Support them or don't support them. But, for goodness sake, if you're not going to support, shut up.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • "Boldness be my friend" so the saying goes. It takes courage to admit that our loyalty to the present manager has been misplaced.It takes courage to take action. To be guilty on both counts at the top level is a recipe for disaster for NCFC

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    mardler

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • That should be '1p5hit' of course!

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    Smudger75

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • And I a with you on WWI Timbo. Even though I am only a spritely 57, my Grandfather joined up in St Andrews hall in 1914 and managed to get through the Battle of the Somme and not to get demobbed until 1920. Now he really knew how to cuss out Norwich City. Unfortunately he passed away 10 year before the "Bayern Munich" match.

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, March 17, 2014

  • Gibbo, my form master in 1Y was the `lofty` Bertie High! Walter Williment. `Flemmy` Floyd. `Ben` Burgess in physics (I was scared of him). Chapman in Chemistry. Watkins in Biology. There was another with a plum-blue nose in woodwork, (Flowerdew?) and a Scottish bloke who seemed p!ssed in metalwork. Murdoch? Jack Adams provided the sadism in sport, while Norris threatened to `bounce` anybody who got his declensions in a twist. But, above all, is my memory of that great man, Stanley Hesketh. After the 50-Mile walk in about 196?, he saw me lying on the bench in the medical room, in agony with blisters. He patted me on the feet and said `well done- you`re the first to return`. Ouch!

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, March 18, 2014

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