Chris Hughton - Norwich City squander a priceless Premier League win against Stoke City

Norwich City midfielder Wes Hoolahan started in the Canaries' 1-1 Premier League draw against Stoke City. 
Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd Norwich City midfielder Wes Hoolahan started in the Canaries' 1-1 Premier League draw against Stoke City. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Saturday, March 8, 2014
6:00 PM

Chris Hughton admitted Norwich City blew two precious Premier League points after being pegged back by ten-man Stoke City in a 1-1 Carrow Road draw.

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Bradley Johnson’s second half header was cancelled out by Jonathan Walters’ cool penalty after Seb Bassong rashly brought down John Guidetti. Walters however was dismissed for a studs up challenge on Alex Tettey five minutes later but the hosts never looked like making their numerical advantage count for the remaining 17 minutes.

Norwich’s point kept them four points clear of the bottom three but Hughton accepted it was a major missed opportunity.

“The frustration comes from not seeing out the game,” he said. “The penalty was soft. It was a ball I didn’t think Seb needed to go for. On other occasions a different referee might not have given it but we allowed ourselves to get in that position. We were 1-0 up in a game that wasn’t a classic against quite a direct Stoke side who offer that physicality up front and the disappointment was it came in the period when we were more comfortable. I thought they gave us some problems in the first half but we had come through that. It definitely feels like two points dropped.

“I had no issues with the sending off. He is certainly high. They both went for the ball but Walters was higher than Alex and he certainly caught him. It is one that most referees would have given, but I think the lad is okay. He is sore from where he was caught but there are no problems. Sometimes you are pleased when you see a team go down to 10 but there is arguably no-one better than Stoke at dealing with getting men behind the ball. The only way you felt it might come was a good strike from outside the box or getting behind the full-backs. Generally anything lofted into the box is not going to bring success and we didn’t really make any inroads against 10 men.”

116 comments

  • The players do like him. He spends time training with them which doesnt happen often. I still think he is a good coach but he does make some strange decisions. As manager you cannot be negative ,but I was at West Ham and Everton. Strange subs and at Everton I thought he had lost the dressing room and unfortunately, at that time, thought it was time for a change. Also just to say I know the board had a little meeting today.

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Yes sharky it was the players, wont it?, nothing to do with hughton was it?

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    acornlake

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • It was a blatant penalty which no one would dispute except the Hoot. He always blames someone or something other than himself, a sure sign of inadequacy.

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    Cecil

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • I can't find anything new to say as it is the same problem week after week. I liked Barking Wise's summary. Darren Eadie also had the opposite view to CH on how we should have approached the Stoke bus-park in the last 15 minutes. He said hat shots from distance will always be deflected, you need to keep putting it I high an wait for the fluffed clearance a you have a better chance of finding a way trough from 6 yard than 30. Another dismal Sunday morning.

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Where`s BP2? His absence is fazing me. Or is it just a phase I`m going through? I wonder if he`s still effecting his evacuational activities in the small room? Such gratuitous graphic detail, too. I hope he doesn`t leave a floater like Mike Myers` "F@t B*****d". That reminds me - ScotCan. Gentlemanly defence of norman hall on another board, Lobbo. Just a warning though; any disapproval of Hughton will be deemed by ScotCan to be the manifestation of a most sinister hidden agenda.... Li`l Benno`ll be back soon! Hot news from Colney, the Club has employed a Celebrational Psychiatrist who is holding special one-on-one sessions with young Wes `Miserablé` Hoolahan. The others are to get Group Refresher Course Therapy - except Becchio; he`s already the benchmark.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • It's a deal for me Brew but you must remember that I am terrible at negotiating a good fee, my whole team was paid £120 a week back in the day and my share barely paid the petrol. One thing is for sure though, my old manager would not have accepted that result yesterday but likewise would never have started with the same team that lost to Villa, apart from the insertion of a striker who cannot play target man and does not look like a poacher either. Just what is his game I wonder! I am starting to wonder if a certain cb has placed money on scoring a hat trick of relegations from the Premiership.

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    TrevorKeith

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • 'Sharky' I'm surprised that 'Scotcan' hasn't been on your back re the "troulbe" we're in. Mind you I agree with you that if we don't all get behind the the team we are only going one way, and it's where I'll be wearing my shorts, ie. SOUTH. Many have said it before but CH is no tactician, can't adjust when necessary and can't sub. for toffee.

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    Lobbo

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Until that referees decision I enjoyed the game. Thats not the managers fault. Maybe its because I dont have to pay ;-) I wanted change before the transfer window. We cant do it now. Get behind the team, as we are in serious troulbe.

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • LincsCan, didn`t West Ham once go down with 42 points? Distant memory. I had a pint of Bateman`s XXXB in Naaaridge today. Excellent!

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Long story TK. In my young days I was an Inside right in old money. Professionally I played centre forward. I scored over 300 goals at various levels. I had to give up and good job because of stress and moved back to where I was born. I have been retired a while now. Regarding Duncan I often wonder about the heavy balls we use to header all the time. Just makes you think.

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • .....Mr McNally!...how can you sit there behind the majority share holder pulling faces and watching your football manager taking the best player off?...Just what is it he has against Norwich City?...Just what is it he has against Hoolahan?...Just what is it he has against Norwich City fans?....Please! Please! ..take him into the office as soon as possible, and move him on!....Regrettably,...He just cannot do the job!....The outcome looks Bleak!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • That says it all used all of his strikers none of them can score a goal between them well done CH you bought some great strikers. This board will keep Hughton even if they go down witch they will just look at the last 5 games all defeats

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    DOBBY1970

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • If you think it Dave it must be true

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    Norfolk Boy

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Don't expect any 'favours' from Southampton next week, their players will definitely not be 'on the beach'. A few of them are playing for an England World Cup place. We will definitely need to keep Lallana quiet if we have any chance of grabbing any points. Cant see it happening though unfortunately!

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    Henry

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Something else that I have to say. Duncan Forbes was my hero, I used to play centre half and as a teenager I remember meeting him on the street once, he was not too proud to talk to a fan. I remember watching him heading away goal-keeper’s drop-kicks time after time with those heavier balls that were used back then and you could feel the "thud" in the stands, I worried what the long-term effect might be. Danny Blanchflower and Jeff Astle also went the same way with that horrible ailment at an early age.

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Poor result, poor game, 2 poor teams. I would have left RVW and Hoolahan on for longer. Elmander actually looked like he had more idea than the others when he came on, and did get the ball across and beat a couple of players, whereas Hooper belted it wildly over. But hey Stoke don't look too good either. Fulham seem to be sinking without trace, and who knows which Sunderland team will turn up. It's all very well having games in hand, but they have to get something out of them. There's also Palace and WBA. Interesting days......well maybe not. I don't like going down there at the moment, so much tension, so many nerves and that's just the fans. As for the message boards, well everyone seems to need a scapegoat. All I want is a bit more pleasure, hopefully with a win or two....or three or four.

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    pablo

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Isn't it about time that as fans of Norwich City, rather than vent your frustrations here on a forum that i doubt the board pays any attention to, start making the proper noises to the correct people? You've done it before (as have many fans to other coaches) i"m sure with encouragement from your supporters groups you will be heard and if the directors agree -sounds like they do - then you may just get your wish.

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    MonkeyNuts

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • I hope you`re wrong on that CB bet, TK. Sing Bassong at twilight.....

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Trevor catch up. Apart from the Hoolahan sub. I,ve said everything you said. Apart from Martin where we have not agreed all season ;-)

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • I would just like congratulate Archie on the photograph which seems to capture half of Stoke style very nicely.

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • PPS. I hadn`t realised you were such a youngster, TK! I`m a `proper` OAP, already on my second bus pass and first annual increase in the State Pension. Sufficient, after taxation, to get a weekly pint of Nelson`s Revenge in Wetherspoon`s, and have enough left over to buy the EDP (on a special offer day). Of course, rather than waste it in this way, I actually put the change towards a second pint of Nelson`s Revenge. Do you remember that perfect pundit-pairing of `Saint & Greavesy`? You & sharky should get together: `Trev & Sharky`. I`ll be your agent\manager. 20% OK? For you two, that is, already. ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • ... and where`s mijn speciaal vriend Blaffen Wijs? I hope he`s not cheating on me with BP2....

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • The players

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • I think Palace, Cardiff and Fulham will get relegated, WBA have Arsenal, Spurs and Man City in their last 5, whilst Palace have Liverpool and Man City 2 of their last 3,, we just need to be ahead of the pack,,,, and hey Elmander and Bassong get them of the pitch please once and for all,,,,

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    Robin Sydney

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • The table on the form of the last 6 games shows City's is declining.In this table we are 3rd from bottom,with only Fulham and WBA doing worse.We are getting worse,not better.OTBC.

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    Peter Watson

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Trevor - what you have pointed out are just a few of the constant, incoherent, decisions Hughton makes week in, week out. He cannot read a game in progress, that much is all too clear. If he could he wouldn;t keep making the same basic mistakes, especially with his substitutions which often beggar belief. He has been allowed to continue taking this club downhill for far too long and the Board has sat on its collective hands and has failed to act. Do they somehow expect Hughton to suddenly produce a series of good, positive performances, goals and wins as if by magic? If they do then they are dreaming and the dream is turning into a nightmare. A measure of how bad we are was demonstrated way back when we were well beaten at home by non-league Luton Town. But boardroom, heads have remained firmly in the sand and sad to say they have in this instance failed the fans who deserve better.

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    malaga flier

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • That`s so true, Swiss. Poor Duncan seems to have suffered the same consequence as Geoff Astle et al. Forbes was my hero too. When I started work at Watney`s, Mortlake back in the late `60s, Big Dunc was in his prime. I even recruited a few new Norwich fans with special reference to, and reverence for, Forbesie. The poor Laboratory Manager, a Scottish chap with the surname `Duncan`, was universally referred to as `Forbes`. The real Forbes, well; Six foot two, eyes of blue etc. Great days, great fellow. And a Gentleman. On the coldest day, there he`d be with his sleeves rolled up as far as possible. Gloves?? Whaaat?

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Scroll down and you'll find me, Gek. Only the one post but quite "Mattiesque" in its lack of brevity. I thought one big dose of effluvia was more cathartic than lots of little ones. I spewed it out late last night when you and Archie were probably both tucked up in bed with a mug of Horlicks.........not together, of course.........that would have been disrespectful to your smiley little Norwegian friend, who is still celebrity an achievement unheard of at NCFC in recent times : victory over Fulham. Think I'll wash the car now. Later, Blaff.

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    User Removed

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Oh dear!! Oh dear!!......So there is no life left in us yet!! get a grip we ain't done yet. Every game pushes us closer to the brink but that is where we perform best. It is the same old story week in and week out because it the same old philosophy week in week out. We really don't look the team most likely to survive. I think what happened at the end of last season is that the players ignored instructions from CH and went out and played for themselves and a combination of factors worked for us. I would not bet against them doing the same this season. But who knows what the result may be.

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    NICEONE

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • When we scored today I continued to feel very insecure. Insecure because I knew we would try and sit on the lead. Insecure because Hooper aside our strike force of WV, Elmander and Becchio has between them scored 1 goal all season. Then perhaps most insecure waiting for the Referee to erroneously stamp his influence or ego on the game. And true to form he did. Not a trip, not a vigorous push in the back, not a grab at the shirt and none of the garbage we routinely see when there is a corner. Nothing but an innocuous coming together of two big men with nothing particularly on the line. I've looked at it many times and I don't see even a foul let alone a penalty. But a penalty it was and by the time the Ref 'evened' things up with a Stoke red card the game was gone because we simply can't score two goals. Chris it's a mess up front and it took you the best part of L10Mill to make it. Thank you very much and goodbye

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    Pritch

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • PS. Sharky, did pubmandave tip you off about that `little board meeting`? Has it happened? Has Hughton gone, or have they just put up the price of the delicious Warm Dogs? ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Same old rubbish .A nothing performance. I saw little evidence of the desire to win promised by Hughton. Nothing for the fans to get behind, low quality football , no excitement, no entertainment, no chance I will waste another Saturday afternoon watching that dross. Something HAS to change, nothing ever does.

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    kenfoggo

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • I wonder how long it will be before the Health and Safety brigade ask for heading to be banned from the game, shortly followed by any type of contact as it will be deemed too dangerous. Mind you, there is probably already an EC rule against such things including competition and tables.

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    TrevorKeith

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Sadly, you`re right there Henry. I was just having a Dubai\Pollyanna moment. But, now I`ve run out of my specially imported Dubai Abu Yabba Dabba Dhabi Elixir, reality has returned :-(

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • There were so many things wrong or missing today. I do think we looked intimidated by Stoke's physical play - they are a hard (and I think dirty) team, but premier league players need to stand up to it on the field and not back-off. Our passing was woeful in the first half and luckily Stoke was just as bad - both teams giving the ball away. Taking off Hoolahan was plain stupid. I could understand saving him if we were two or more up, but this continual taking off the most dangerous player and replacing with a more defensive minded one when we do not have the game won is incomprehensible. Our manager cannot impact the game tactically, once it has started. This shows he is not a rounded manager capable of managing a premier league team. I believe with the right manager and coaches to instill confidence and a couple of additions we have a strong squad.

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    MichiganCanary

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • One up and and then we go into defence mood

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    Breameo

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Don't expect any 'favours' from Southampton next week, their players will definitely not be 'on the beach'. A few of them are playing for an England World Cup place. We will definitely need to keep Lallana quiet if we have any chance of grabbing any points. Cant see it happening though unfortunately!

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    Henry

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Sharky, I too managed and held a coaching badge so consider I have an understanding of the game. I agree with you that it was the players that lost the game, however, it was CH that decided to continue with Bassong in central defence despite the fact that he looks way off form right now and was responsibly for two if not three of the goals against Villa. Bennett had been our best central defender for some time before getting injured but as he is now fit surely he should have started alongside Bassong today. Likewise, RVW has looked completely off the pace of Premiership football, whereas Hooper actually looked as though he was forming a decent attacking partnership with Wes against Villa last week, between them they so nearly scored a second goal in the opening 20 minutes. Why therefore did CH decided to drop Hooper for RVW and then substitute Wes before introducing Hooper late in the game. Very poor tactical decisions by a manager who looks out of his depth, if only I had been paid his excessive salary when I was in the hot seat.

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    TrevorKeith

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • ....It's just taken me 20mins to write that comment, Archant! ....in 20 seconds your infernal machine has rejected it!....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • This is a strange claim by Houghton. According to Sky Sports, Stoke should have killed the game off in the first half.

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    NB

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Your always be blue your always be blue o Johnny Walters your always be blue

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    Townman

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Crucial we beat WBA,, Their last 5 fixtures include Tottenham, Man City, Arsenal and Palace 2 of their last 3 are Liverpool and Ma City, so if we can get about 6 to 7 points up on these guys before our last 4,, then game on...

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    Robin Sydney

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Yep, Algarve. I can take relegation if (or when!) it happens. But what I can't accept is another season with Hughton and his crew running the show and more dull, depressing, predictable, defensive, mind-numbing performances. Once decline sets in it can become a habit and who is to say dropping down a division would arrest that? Look at clubs like Wolves, the Sheffields, Leeds etc. McNally and the Board made a grave mistake hiring Hughton and his chums and an even bigger one in failing to act when, a long time ago, it was clear they were not up to the job. Come May it could all come home to roost and life in Moneyworld would be over. Cerchang!

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    malaga flier

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • wouldnt be so bad if you saw the players sweating blood for the team.None of them want to get relegated but why are they not showing more passion?pity big dunc isnt well enough to give them a talk on passion and commitment!Also why is becchio on the bench?is it because ch cant find anyone else to sit there, he will never get on the pitch so might as well sit my cat there!

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    tonyb

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Je Hughes as a player. .. back in scrape the skin. ..and those exquisite elbows. All in all a perfect fit for Stoke. Not sour grapes - Ewan was similar but different, imo

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    el dingo

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Darren Eadie was specific on BBC Radio Norfolk yesterday. Asked why our front men aren't scoring he said most goals come from byline crosses and we are not delivering them. I have to agree. Snodgrass cannot do so because he is playing on his wrong foot. I know he laid on the goal. But it was a dead ball and he had the time to use his left foot to deliver. I say again, he does not get to the byline and cross because he is one-footed and because he isn't quick enough to get round his fullback. Despite all the money Hughton has spent we are still an average team made much worse by a manger who hasn't a clue how to get the most out of them. Lambert has an inferior squad technically but got them playing together and for each other in a way we just don't see under Hughton. Even a team of average players can be made to deliver given the right coaching. Goodness knows what they do all week at Colney. Whatever it is, it has led to the slightest improvement. In fact we just appear to get worse. Oh for a leader on and off the pitch!

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    malaga flier

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • No change there then, sharky? ;-) Seriously, though, Stoke are gruesome. Walters just seemed to have been handed Chopper Charlie`s role. Are you interested in forming an old gits` pundit-pairing with TK? An updated take on Saint `n Greavesy - `Trev & Sharky`. TK`s up for it, and is happy with my being your agent\manager and taking only 80% of your earnings in fees. Plus expenses. And Image Rights. Plus all royalties on future re-runs. You know it makes sense ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • If I were producing MOTD, I'd put the Norwich game on first, show the tribute to Duncan Forbes and move straight on to another game. What happened after the tribute was truly awful. Mattias is going to be spitting nails on Monday morning. Neither team deserves to be in the PL. TK has said it all about team selection and substitutions. Bennett wasn't even on the bench, for Heaven's sake. The ones that did play looked like they had never met each other, never mind trained with each other. Passing was woeful, shots off target, no fluency or ideas. What do they do at Colney from Monday to Friday? Listen to lectures from nutritionists and psychologists, watch videos and then consult with their tattoo artists, that's my guess. In that silly poll of pundits a few weeks back, I think I'm right in saying that every single pundit (even the straight-talking Chris Lakey) had this game down as a 3 pointer. I wouldn't put ANY game down as a 3 pointer any more.The lid on our PL coffin was fairly secure 2 months ago. From now on each game played just represents another unnecessary nail in the lid of the coffin. I think Algarve makes a good point: if it takes relegation to rid the club of CH and start rebuilding an exciting team, then so be it. I'm pleased for Duncan Forbes and his family. They got the reception they deserved. But I'm quite glad that Duncan himself didn't see what has become of the team and the club he devoted himself to for so many years.

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    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • If CH needs to pick bassong for every game why doesnt he play him upfront?wouldnt give away goals or pens and could do no worse than GH,RVW orJE!

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    tonyb

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • …..PS....SHOULD I HAVE SENT KISSES?....xxxxx

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • …..Stew Pydsodd here!.....just been talking to a fellow who had the opinion that Hoolahan should not have started in the match...not up to standard!...and was missing for most of the hour he played.....I mildly told him that a different view was taken by myself and by Peter Beagre, commenting on the internet channel I watch, that he found it incredible that Mr Hughton took him off after the hour mark....He was asked to name his 'man of the match' just before the end and said that there could only be one candidate....Wes Hoolahan!....So he will definitely be dropped for the next game!.... Strange how a retired forward of ability, has a completely different idea how a football match should be played compared to a stopper!.... To my friend Sharky I would say that ' if he should turn around in his plush complimentary seat, he would be able to share in the despair that is written over the face of Mr McNally'....It's incredible how much more you see when watching from an electrically adjustable armchair!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Why O Why does CH keep on playing Elmander? He's not done anything all season and he's not our player. In a few months he will be back with his club. Becchio our player give him a chance.

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    tunsteadtiger

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • That says it all used all of his strikers none of them can score a goal between them well done CH you bought some great strikers. This board will keep Hughton even if they go down witch they will just look at the last 5 games all defeats

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    DOBBY1970

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Instead of looking for excuses as to why we didn't win look at yourself Mr Hughton you are just not good enough ,your football is one dimensional ,and you don't have the ability a To turn a game around we as supporters deserve much better than you ,you are going to take us down but at least you'll be gone good job too

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    Victor meldrew

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Whatever happens between now and the end of the season I look forward to next season free from Hughton and the gang! Thoroughly sick of him and his boring ever tedious comments. Roll on next season Hughton free wherever it may be !

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    Burglecut

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • After Spurs I accepted the manager would stay but why should he? At this late stage WBA are reported to be thinking of changing again (Dave Jones). Last season Sunderland acted with 7 games to go. Ok they got Di Canio but he made an impact and they stayed up. The crazy thing is that the league position fails to deteriorate significantly because other teams are doing poorly and some have games in hand. We however have that fixture list from hell to end on. Agree with m\nuts it is time for the fans to be vocal about their concerns.

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Swiss, I too fear that you are right in that heavy balls have a lot to answer for. I still remember a similar player, Gary Peters who left us and joined Wimbledon, he played centre half and was captain during their rise from the old Southern League to the Premier league. He had to retire when they got promoted from division one so never played at the top level. He retired on doctors orders as he was suffering neck and headache problems, he then went on to manage Preston for a season or two.

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    TrevorKeith

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Van winkel instead of hooper ! then elmander instead of benchio ! says it all doesnt it.!

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    nelly

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • True. I will say no more.

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • I agree with kenfoggo 100%. Its not the fact we are losing matches, its our dull, non attacking style of play that bores me to death. Id rather watch us lose every week 3-2, playing exciting attacking football with a desire to win and a desire to entertain the crowd. At the moment half of Carrow Road are snoring the way we are 'playing'

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    Henry

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Was hoping we'd pick up 4 points from the Villa and Stoke matches. 1 is not good. Still they werent real 6-pointers as neither Villa nor Stoke are relegation candidates. The candidates are: Fulham, Sunderland, Cardiff, West Brom, Palace, and us. Basically, we have to beat Sunderland, West Brom, and Fulham. If we do we're saved.

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    Cecil

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Do they actually interview CH every game,or just run the same excuses on a weekly loop? Could have,should have,would have...DIDN'T. His words of wisdom are as weak and predictable as the team.

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    Nexus_6

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • The players

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Trevor catch up. Apart from the Hoolahan sub. I,ve said everything you said. Apart from Martin where we have not agreed all season ;-)

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Crucial we beat WBA,, Their last 5 fixtures include Tottenham, Man City, Arsenal and Palace 2 of their last 3 are Liverpool and Ma City, so if we can get about 6 to 7 points up on these guys before our last 4,, then game on...

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    Robin Sydney

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Amazing how we stay out of bottom three. We can't score more than one goal, can't defend a lead and yet results elsewhere keep us alive. Won't last. End of season group of death looms. For now, thanks Man U, thanks Soton, thanks Middlesborough

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    Lincs Canary

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Hi Brew. well at least you made me smile. How about 8% ? That should be enough to buy your own barrels. ;-)

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    sharky

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Chris Hughton and players should give up and stack Shelves in Supermarkets. Only to gain points, for getting stock rotation right !

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    che bramley

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Hoots was bemoaning our away form after last weeks performance, and is doing all he can to find a scapegoat for todays,even being reported as saying we didnt throw the kitchen sink at Stoke when they were down to 10 men as they are well organised and we would probably not have made chances- except for speculative long range shots-. So if thats his public utterance about Stoke having 10 men on the pitch what did he say to the team when they had to face 11 Stoke players?

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Michigan---agree totally with you. This Lennon connection will not go away (very strong in Scotland )---however don't think he will come here unless we were in the Prem; & that is not the case at the moment

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    superfan59

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Sharky, You have to excuse me as I am now very near to retirement age but in my day I played mostly as a right back or centre back so it is a position a pay particular attention to. Where on the park did you tend to play I wonder.

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    TrevorKeith

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Correction to my previous posting I meant to say Bennett should have started alongside Yobo in central defence.

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    TrevorKeith

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • @Norfolk Boy Hughton is on a three year contract, not a rolling one year contract. Which makes me think the rest of what you say is nonsense.

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    Dave B

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Until that referees decision I enjoyed the game. Thats not the managers fault. Maybe its because I dont have to pay ;-) I wanted change before the transfer window. We cant do it now. Get behind the team, as we are in serious troulbe.

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Well there's no surprises in this one - another poor game, another squandered lead given away with another Bassong error, a match that we never looked like winning. Same old story week in week out..

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    VictorM

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Hi All I have got so fed up with putting comments on here that I dont bother any more! I could shoot myself on te centre spot before a game and nothing would change. so life goes on I am getting used to not worrying about city every week, because it seems to me that no one on the board do either.I am not a yougnster to city as I have been supporting them, wait for it 54 years and I still wait for an FA cup win or maybe winning the premiership,? no chance of that ever happening either. So to all you out dont bother like me as there really is a life without football and a life without worrying about city and how dreadfull thay are. But be fore I go I guess thy are doing better than a lot of clubs and after all they are just still in the best league in the world?

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    Keep it Low

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • OK, So inside story is the Board are split, they all know that Hughton will not be at Norwich next season that's a given ,they hope and think he will just about keep Norwich up and with Hughton on a rolling one year contract he will go at the end of the season, desperate times.

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    Norfolk Boy

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • A quick afterthought to my earlier post. We gained a point on CP, WBA and Fulham and took our fourth point from Stoke. Why is it that bad days under CH always yield him a silver lining?

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • MF, I agree with you and I have to say that I thought we got lucky last season as we looked the worst side in the league after Christmas until the two late surprise victories. I would have changed manager in the close season but for some reason our board decided to stick with their man. Despite the massive spend by our standards the team seems to have gone backwards rather than forwards and I fear luck will not stay with us this time around.

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    TrevorKeith

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Well my synopsis - 2 points dropped. I struggle to understand why Elmander still gets a run from the bench, he has done nothing all season. Becchio again left alone. Why make a bad substitution literally 5 minutes after we take the lead unless injury, we had control of the game finally. And my last point is why was Bassong even picked after probably the worst performance all season last week.... proven today by a costly error.... Only positive we gained 1 point on Palace (who I think will go down) and WBA. The pressure is on now for Swansea which we generally play well at,, but I have grave doubts this year.

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    Robin Sydney

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Hi, Blaff. I did find your offering eventually. It`s Mattiesqueness did deceive me initially. I suppose Mattias is busy preparing his Parisian P!ssoire for its transmogrification into the new shape; a sheep shed in Sheringham. From there will be broadcast his brief words of wisdom, inbetween working on his remake of `What`s My Line`. Btw, ref `effluvia`, I`m a tad concerned about your Doppelgaenger, BP2, he seems to have developed a scatological fixation. I hope he soon gets it out of his system. Je vriend, Gek.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Trouble is Sharky that little meeting starts in St Bonifaces, moves to the Rat & Bucket, sticks with Hughton and relegates our Club. ..

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    el dingo

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • I've said it many times, I think some of the squad are behind CH because he favors them and does not give them a hard time when they don't perform. I think we do have talent in the squad, but it is not being utilized and CH is not getting the best out of them - I believe some of them are now seeing it as an easy nine to five job for an interim period. A good feisty manager who will drive them hard and make all the squad really fight for their places could work wonders with the players we have, dropping them when they don't perform and giving others a chance. It is not too late to make a change - look how quickly PL turned around the squad a couple of years ago. The right person could get some points out of the last few fixtures, so let's bring in Neil Lennon right now.

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    MichiganCanary

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Sharky, yes I do agree with what you say in most respects but I think the manager got the team selection wrong to start with by selecting RVW and Bassong, likewise, taking Hoolahan off seemed a strange decision as he was playing well at the time. Ultimately though I do not think CH is right for our club and should have been replaced before Christmas. He is undoubtedly a good coach but does not have what it takes to manage a club like ours at this level. I have not had the chance to see the penalty decision but all clubs have to take that one on the chin. I did see the Spurs later on Sky and agree that it was very soft, the red card was therefore a joke but at least Bassong stayed on the park for us today.

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    TrevorKeith

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Its getting to the point when you can write the same old story. Week in, week out. Opportunities missed and squandered. No buffer in the "goals for" column so that we can absorb a back 4 failure when necessary.When the story of this season comes to be written, it will be one of serial failure under the stewardship of a manager out of his depth, and afraid to gamble and win. Safety first, safety second, and if you are down.....defend the deficit so that it grows no larger. NCFC believes that 17th in this league will be good enough. They gamble on achieving that. A dangerous, dangerous strategy. A growing number of us believe that relegation, a new manger and a new start will be preferable to surviving, and then enduring another season like this one, next year

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    Algarve Canary

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Thought the Ref got the penalty decision correct. If its just the players who are to blame and not the manager, then the question is why have a manager and what is his role ??.

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    Jimhow

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • In this modern day, can't you people at Archant do something about all these repeated messages?

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    Derek McDonald

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Surrey Canary, yes you can stay up on 35 points. Over last 10 seasons it would have been enough 4 times. In season 2009\10 31 was enough (I fancy that target). Only once in past decade has that magic 40pts been required. PS hope you get this post because my recent efforts have all gone down a black hole.

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    Lincs Canary

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • There can be no doubt that after the Aston Villa and Stoke games that Bassong is not a Premier quality player at the moment. He is no longer an asset but a liability. He gifted the penalty to Stoke with a clumsy, inept challenge in the penalty area. It was an unnecessary challenge. I was at the match and was watching him keenly and he was frequently out of position and slow to appreciate threatening opposition around him. There are many things wrong at Carrow Road at the moment, but sticking with players who are obviously out of form or not contributing is an obvious Management failing. To have a Captain on the pitch who is not playing well and provides little direction to the team even when he plays adequately is unforgivable. Just because he has been allocated the status of Captain does not make him an automatic choice. . 26, 000 people in the stands yesterday witnessed this, the only person who did not was Hugton.

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    kenfoggo

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Sharky you carry on , you have every right to a voice

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    Norfolk Boy

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Well there's no surprises in this one - another poor game, another squandered lead given away with another Bassong error, a match that we never looked like winning. Same old story week in week out..

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    VictorM

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Yet another 'must win' match not won! Both teams were awful. Our movement, especially that in the final third, was as slow as a slow thing. Far too much faffing about with the ball when quick defence splitting passes were needed. Where is our killer instinct? 1 nil ahead and we should have been pressing for another. Instead we invite pressure from a 10 man Stoke - hence the penalty. Thing is I'm beginning to feel like I really don't care less.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Aha Old boys pontificating

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    Norfolk Boy

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • I quote from the match report in today's Sunday Times:"Hughton's conservatism also contributed to a general feeling of dissatisfaction. Taking off Norwich's most creative player, Wes Hoolahan, after a little more than a hour when his side were a goal up looked an incredibly defensive step." So it's not just us fans who thought the decision was crazy! (although no more so than dozens of others Hughton continues to make week in, week out!). It is blindingly obvious to every except, it seems, Hughton, that his tactics, team selections and substitutions are at best a complete mystery, at worse a farce. The only people who appear immune to all this are Hughton and his entourage and the Board, whose passivity is unfathomable.

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    malaga flier

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Lets be honest. Stoke dont deserve anything. They are very physical and seem to get away with it. In my day that would never have been a penalty. What would have been given is the continual "rugby" tackles from corners that they seem to get away with all season. Plus Mark Hughes seems to think its ok for his players to stamp on another players legs. He also deserves nothing. I,ve just watched the entire game again. Yeah!!! silly cos its made me a miserable git now.

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    sharky

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • I think Hughton is a goner, whatever happens. It should have happened at Christmas, but fingers crossed, we can stay up, and get a new manager in quickly.

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    HippoKL

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • It was a player who gave away the penalty. I,ve seen it many times. It was harsh. Same for Spurs just now. Is that the managers fault?

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Yet another 'must win' match not won! Both teams were awful. Our movement, especially that in the final third, was as slow as a slow thing. Far too much faffing about with the ball when quick defence splitting passes were needed. Where is our killer instinct? 1 nil ahead and we should have been pressing for another. Instead we invite pressure from a 10 man Stoke - hence the penalty. Thing is I'm beginning to feel like I really don't care less.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • I can't find anything new to say as it is the same problem week after week. I liked Barking Wise's summary. Darren Eadie also had the opposite view to CH on how we should have approached the Stoke bus-park in the last 15 minutes. He said hat shots from distance will always be deflected, you need to keep putting it I high an wait for the fluffed clearance a you have a better chance of finding a way trough from 6 yard than 30. Another dismal Sunday morning.

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Swiss I'm 56 so missed that era - just. We used to train with mouldmasters - evil! Whatever the ball the first header on a Sunday morning haunts me still. I fear you have a serious point a la boxing debate...

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    el dingo

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • After the horror show against Villa Bassong could have done with a spell on the bench. I find CH difficult to fathom. Players have an absolute stinker yet still get selected, others terrorise defences yet get substituted. It will be a white knuckle ride to the end with this twit. Console yourselves that we aren't a mid table mediocre Championship side with massive debts and having lost 2-0 at Middlesborough and facing the mighty Yeovil away in the next fixture.

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    NorwichAbs

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • I also believe we got two good results at the end of last season partly due to the players taking the decision to do it their way. However we don't have a character like Grant Holt who may have been the catalyst for that last season. We don't have anyone who appears able to lead by example either on or off the pitch. So I can't see us finding any get out of gaol cards this time round. We need 10 more points to be safe and as we can't beat the teams around us I doubt that target is attainable. If any opponent scores a goal the best we can do is to draw. Hughton has starved the front men of service all season due to his obsession with wrong-sided wingers and no creativity in midfield. The team has, thus, been unbalanced all season with predictable results. If we go down the Board will have to shoulder much of the blame for sitting on their hands when change was required.

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    malaga flier

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • TK and Sharky, it sound s as if I have to bow to your greater experience of football so can you please explain to me why you think Hughton is a good coach as I have seen no evidence of it whatsoever. In fact as a party game, name three things that Hughton has done right for Norwich. I can name several examples of abject failure. He will in future years be rated alongside Robert Chase and Bryan Gunn as Norwich City disaster areas and displays the same pompous arrogance.

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    waclor

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Its getting to the point when you can write the same old story. Week in, week out. Opportunities missed and squandered. No buffer in the "goals for" column so that we can absorb a back 4 failure when necessary.When the story of this season comes to be written, it will be one of serial failure under the stewardship of a manager out of his depth, and afraid to gamble and win. Safety first, safety second, and if you are down.....defend the deficit so that it grows no larger. NCFC believes that 17th in this league will be good enough. They gamble on achieving that. A dangerous, dangerous strategy. A growing number of us believe that relegation, a new manger and a new start will be preferable to surviving, and then enduring another season like this one, next year

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    Algarve Canary

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Yes Nexus, exactly. It has been said repeatedly and for months that the way the team is set up and the tactics employed are NOT working. And yet every week , the same dross performance is trotted out. The same. Leading to the same criticisms and the same lame excuses from Hughton. Week after week.

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    kenfoggo

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • No change there then, sharky? ;-) Seriously, though, Stoke are gruesome. Walters just seemed to have been handed Chopper Charlie`s role. Are you interested in forming an old gits` pundit-pairing with TK? An updated take on Saint `n Greavesy - `Trev & Sharky`. TK`s up for it, and is happy with my being your agent\manager and taking only 80% of your earnings in fees. Plus expenses. And Image Rights. Plus all royalties on future re-runs. You know it makes sense ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Well who is to blame Hughton?

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    acornlake

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Niceone, you could be right about things working out. Chelsea are pulling away in title race so our last four games might see us facing teams whose destinies are settled. Arsenal will probably have the cup on their minds. Man U won't want a win that takes them into the Europa Cup. Sunderland will be exhausted making up fixtures. Fulham could be down by the time we play there. If the players can just ignore CH... Yes, I think we can do it!! OTBC

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Can't see more than 6 points now - and that's assuming two home wins in the next two home games. Maybe catch a draw somewhere, but maybe not. Can a team stay upon 35 points?

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    Surrey Canary

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Where was Ryan Bennett?? Why is Chris Hughton? We mostly got lucky with the other results yesterday, though maybe a Fulham draw or even win vs Cardiff would`ve been better. What a dismal way to have to look at our season:- "how bad are the others?". Sunderland have now stockpiled 3 games in hand, but I`m told they are no longer allowed to "do a Coventry" with them. We need to pull off a surprise result. Southampton probably only have one position in the table to play for (upward over Toon) and probably won`t finish any lower than where they are now. So perhaps they`re packing their beach towels already, á la WBA last season. What a b****y awful way to view "success". Carrow Road; The Graveyard of Ambition.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Isn't it about time that as fans of Norwich City, rather than vent your frustrations here on a forum that i doubt the board pays any attention to, start making the proper noises to the correct people? You've done it before (as have many fans to other coaches) i"m sure with encouragement from your supporters groups you will be heard and if the directors agree -sounds like they do - then you may just get your wish.

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    MonkeyNuts

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Michigan---agree totally with you. This Lennon connection will not go away (very strong in Scotland )---however don't think he will come here unless we were in the Prem; & that is not the case at the moment

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    superfan59

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • The whole complex of the game changed as soon as he took Wes off.I think our trouble can be summed up as we have a central defender that gives away goals we have a centre forward that can't score goals and our only creative player that is used part time by our manager

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    leslie cater

    Sunday, March 9, 2014

  • Ok TK so you are agreeing with me then.

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    sharky

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • Poor defensive error (again!) from a central defender. Poor substitution choices, poor team motivation & tactics (again!) from the manager & coaches. Impotent attack (again!) Sitting on their hands and doing nothing to resolve the problems (again) from McNally & the board. Poor fans (again!) having to suffer the rubbish being churned out every week. Poor players running around like headless chickens because of substandard leadership and direction on and off the pitch....

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    Honest Injun

    Saturday, March 8, 2014

  • I can stomach relegation if that frees us from the clutches of Hughton. But what I would find hard to accept is relegation with him still at the helm. If we do go down I would like to think it would enable us to have a new start, to get in a coach who really can assess his squad and use them to the best of their abilities and who is able to motivate. As to which players would remain is an open question and one that may be driven as much by financial constraints as by ability and performance. If we do go down the Board will be able to assess their mistakes at their leisure and ponder on why they didn't act at the right time to give the club at least a fighting chance of remaining in the Premiership.

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    Sunday, March 9, 2014

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