The Norwich Evening News told last week how a city councillor has called for greater penalties for cyclists after spending an hour monitoring a notorious Norwich danger-spot.

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Julie Brociek-Coulton and others surveyed cycle safety at the one-way stretch off Magdalen Street during the morning rush-hour.

They spotted 18 cyclists using the road illegally – either cycling the wrong way into the direction of traffic or by cycling on the pavement, past pedestrians and shop doors. Mrs Brociek-Coulton said more frequent fines were needed for cyclists, bringing punishments closer to those for drivers who flout the law.

In a poll on our website we asked: Should cyclists who break the law get tougher penalties? You said: Yes- 69%; No 31%. We also asked for your views: here are some of the coments made on www.eveningnews24.co.uk

Tom Will: Is anything being done to understand why so many people ride the wrong way on Magdalen Street? I’m not condoning the behaviour but I believe the cyclist is too often picked on around the city centre. It’s possible some of those people breaking the law do so because they don’t feel safe on alternative, legal routes into city centre.

Whiley Boy: Bikes should be seized and destroyed for repeat offenders and on the spot fine of £50 should be issued when initially caught. Having said this, there is never enough police presence around to control and implement this.

Rae: Spend the money on better cycle lanes. Surely we only want to encourage people to cycle.

MClaf: I am partially sighted and walk to and from work with a white stick. In the last 2 months I have been hit on four separate occasions, once cutting my arm and drawing blood. I got a mouthful of abuse from the cyclist for my trouble. I reported this to the police but the are overstretched.

Turnover: I am a cyclist and I say fine them on the spot or seize the bike and they have to pay £30 plus to get it back.

Christopher Neave: Cyclists often do what they want. I have lost count of the number of times I have been in my van waiting for the lights to change and a cyclist has just looked either way to make sure it is clear before riding through red lights.

Kevin Rymell: Having been a cyclist all my life as well as a motorcyclist and a car driver - I have never ridden on the pavement, or gone through a red light or heaven forbid down a one way street the wrong way - but it really does annoy me when cyclists do these things - you are very vunerable on a bicycle, and many other road users seem to forget this fact but it does not excuse bad behaviour and putting other people including pedestrians at risk.

Oneloose nut: All road users should be penalised appropriately for any law breaking. That includes cars on the path as well as cyclist, red light jumpers (both cars and cycles).

Crazy: Cycle Paths in Norwich are woefully inadequate and most not fit for purpose. Give cyclists the same sort of provision that motorists and pedestrians get and the problem would be solved.

LLCK: I’m a regular walker, cyclist & motorist, so don’t think I’m being biased an anything. Cyclists get the worse deal of all 3 modes of transport. Walkers have dedicated paths, motorists have dedicated roads, only rarely do cyclists get a dedicated cycle route.

CovCanary: conducting a survey on one narrow, busy street is not a fair test. How about looking at busy, wide roads which already have cycle lanes on them as well, for example, and comparing results?

Billy Boy: No mention of cyclists who use the road when cycle paths are provided... I’d like to think I’m a tolerant motorist, but that does get my goat when I’m stuck behind them.

Monkeynuts: I cycle that road twice a day (in both direction?). Iv never jumped a light, and iv never cycled on the pavement. But I’m all for fining people who do, it seems only fair.

ExPat: Instead of spending money trying to help higher paid commuters get out of Norfolk by train faster, why not spend the money on better facilities to help cyclists get around the city more safely?

You don’t have to be online to have your say: write to Norwich Evening News Letters, Prospect House, Rouen Road, Norwich NR1 1RE.

7 comments

  • Cyclists are far from the poor relation painted above here. Why should they be above the law? You cannot say there is no cycle path therefore I am allowed to break the law! Nor is it acceptable to be rude and obnoxious whilst doing so. All five of the children in my care have been either hit or had very near misses with cyclists on pavements speeding along. I was knocked over by a cyclist speeding out of a side road on the pavement. I was lucky enough to come out of it with only bruises but the cyclist was not even sorry - they seemed to think it was my fault for walking along there and intimated that if I am walking along Dereham Road I should check each pavement with great caution leading onto it in case someone is cycling! Of course there should be fines. Near to where we live it is common to see red lights jumped, riding the wrong way down a road, leaping onto the pavement to avoid stopping at red lights and so on. A cyclist is not a pedestrian they are traffic!

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    chickenmamma

    Tuesday, October 9, 2012

  • The sad reality is that unless it can be done by a camera, then nothing will be done to those doing this. The Police may pay lip service to road safety, but do very little when it actually comes to getting out there & doing something about it.

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    el84

    Monday, October 8, 2012

  • ok so heing someone that has to put up with these idiot law breakers every day as they cycle past my shop endangering my customers i want to point out that there are some good arguements BUT they are still breaking the law no excuse warrants breaking the law end of story!! and if we are supposed to believe these are usually decent people why did yesterday we watch a pcso stop a cyclist travelling the wrong way through the one way system on the path, he started to speak to the lady who i would say was in her early 50s, she told him not to be stupid and rod off! he called down the street after her but she kept riding! and we are supposed to thinking the cyclist are the victims here, rubbish!

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    CraigC

    Saturday, October 13, 2012

  • The deterrent is in the possibility of getting caught and then the consequences. This goes for all modes of transport. One £50 fine will deter some people but when they are repeatedly caught, so much so that they could buy a cheap bike with their fine, then more people might consider reviewing their behaviour. Are the burghers of Norwich prepared to sanction the police neglecting other issues for this one? I do not usually speak up for cycle lanes but they do need to be provided unless the amount of traffic can be reduced on the current roads. I can also see the attraction of one on Magdalan Street, but at the same time the council has made alternative provision which is not where the cyclists want it. Consider this, I use the official cycle route into the city, and see the snail paced offenders overtake me at Anglia Square, and when I travel out of the city I use Magdalan Street what does that say about our cycle provision?

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    George Ezekial

    Monday, October 8, 2012

  • Pavement cyclists are a dangerous nuisance. Their behaviour is illegal, inconsiderate and potentially lethal. I have begun to document some of the many examples i see here http:getoffthepavement.wordpress.com

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    skip

    Tuesday, October 9, 2012

  • I agree entirely with mk's comment. I am a cyclist but I don't go through red lights. It would be good if Labour councillors could actually get on with running the city, rather than generating news stories like this, which hit out at an easy target. I might have more respect for them if they did.

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    DrJB

    Monday, October 8, 2012

  • Cyclist's shouldn't go through red lights - but neither should drivers. How many times have you seen drivers 'squeeze' through a light that's been red 1-2s already, usually at high speed. It's more common than cyclists doing the same and far more dangerous. Let's get things into perspective here and not take aim at cyclists simply because they are easy targets compared to the strong pro-car lobby and local councillers wanting to get votes.

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    mk

    Monday, October 8, 2012

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