Norfolk’s top cop has today told of his ‘disappointment’ at the attempts of a police officer to sue a petrol station owner after a fall during a call-out.

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Norfolk Constabulary says it had no prior knowledge of PC Jones’ intended legal action until informed on Friday.

It said in a statement today: “The legal action is not supported by the Constabulary, our understanding being that the action is funded and supported by the Police Federation, a position over which the Constabulary has no control.”

Meanwhile, Chief Constable Phil Gormley added: “This type of claim does not represent the approach and attitude of the overwhelming majority of our staff who understand and accept the risks inherent in policing and which they willingly confront to keep the public they serve safe. It is a disappointment that this is potentially undermined by a private compensation claim.”

Meanwhile, yesterday a Norfolk MP hclaimed the case threatens ‘the fabric of our emergency services’.

Henry Bellingham, MP for North-West Norfolk, raised his concerns to the EDP after it emerged PC Kelly Jones is taking action for injuries she claims to have suffered while attending a suspected break-in on August 25 last year.

The 33-year-old had been called to Nuns’ Bridges Filling Station on Bury Road in Thetford at about midnight after an alarm was triggered, but fell on a kerb while she and owner Steve Jones were checking the outside of the building.

Speaking to the EDP yesterday, Mr Jones said he was “astounded” to receive a letter on Wednesday alleging that the officer had hurt her wrist and leg, which she said required treatment at the West Suffolk Hospital, and that he was to blame.

The 50-year-old, who is married with three children and lives near Bury St Edmunds, said: “It’s a very tough economic climate for us retailers and the margins are very thin and every time you turn around there’s somebody else wanting a piece of you, whether it’s shoplifters, people driving off without paying, the credit card companies or rates going up and something about this doesn’t feel right.

“I’ve got several friends who are policemen and they do a great job and I think when you sign up to the police there must be an element of risk when you put that uniform on. I would still call the police out but it makes you wonder what the repercussions are.”

The letter, from London-based lawyers Pattinson and Brewer, made several claims against Mr Jones including that he had failed to point out the kerb or to adequately light the area, therefore exposing the police officer to an “unnecessary risk of injury”.

It went on: “As she proceeded to the jet wash area located on the right hand side of the filling station, she moved toward a gap in the fencing in order to access the rear of the premises.

“It was dark and there was inadequate lighting. Unknown to our client, there was a section of raised high kerbing. There was very little to draw this raised section to our client’s notice and as our client proceeded towards the gap, she was unaware of this step-up. As such she was caused to trip and fall, thereby sustaining personal injury.”

Mr Jones maintains that the petrol station’s canopy lights were on at the time, as was a street light directly next to the kerb.

Liz Truss, MP for South-West Norfolk, was unavailable for comment, however, Mr Bellingham, said: “I think the Home Secretary needs to get a grip of this situation immediately. A police officer goes into the job knowing what to expect and this begs the question of what will be next? Will a firefighter sue because they don’t like flames or a paramedic because they can’t stand blood? This case threatens the fabric of our emergency services.

“A lot of people have contacted me to register their anger and I’m going to be working with other Norfolk MPs and Liz Truss on this case, as well as speaking to the police federation. The public need to know they can have confidence that the police will investigate a crime without trying to sue them.”

However Paul Ridgway, chairman of Norfolk Police Federation said claims by police officers for injuries sustained while on duty were “very rare”.

He said: “This is not an isolated incident but it is very rare and there’s a very high threshold test by solicitors taking on cases as to whether there’s a case for negligence so it’s not common place.

“It’s not as if police officers will be suing every time they go out on a call and the numbers are not going up or anything like that.”

PC Jones, who is no relation to the petrol station owner, was unavailable for comment.

A Norfolk Constabulary spokesman said that PC Jones was currently on sick leave in relation to pre-planned medical treatment, unrelated to August’s fall.

She added: “We have a duty of care to any officer injured whilst on duty, to support their continued health and well-being and fitness to return to work. Officers can, in addition, receive further support from their staff association, as well as pursuing private treatment.

“The constabulary was wholly unaware of this litigation which appears to be instigated privately by the individual officer.”

Keith Vaz, chairman of the Home Affairs Committee, has now demanded urgent Home Office guidelines on the issue, saying: “This civil claim will have huge implications for every citizen if they call police out to their premises to help them in an emergency.

“It is in the public interest to know where exactly people stand in circumstances like this. If there are going to be cases like this, then people will feel reluctant to call the police in case they are sued.

“I do not think in such circumstances the public would feel they had a responsibility for health and safety issues, in the middle of the night while apparently facing danger.

“It’s a bizarre case and we need some urgent guidelines from the Home Office.”

85 comments

  • "if a member of the public had fallen over this curb, I am sure they would be doing the same" - Then that is part of the problem. There are curbs all over every urban part of the UK - they shouldn't all have to be labelled up as a trip hazard, it's up to each of us to take responsibility for ourselves. If I walk across a road and then trip on a curb as I step onto the pavement, that's my own fault. As it happens I think this is worse because it's a PC. They are expected to go into unknown situations as part of their job.

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    James E

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Andy, I'm afraid you are wrong on this one. Police Officers are not employees, nor is there a contract of employment. Police Officers are Crown Servants and are not even covered by Health and Safety legislation fully. Police Officers are covered by Police Regulations and this Officer strikes me as a candidate for medical retirement under A20! There is an Offence of misconduct in a Public Office but this in no way fits that offence. I don't even think it is a case of bringing Norfolk Constabulary into disrepute, however, it has made them a laughing stock nationally.

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    splash

    Wednesday, April 3, 2013

  • Musto, most employers have a clause in their contract or terms of conditions that states that if an employee brings the employer into disrepute, this is a disciplinary offence. In this case the employer has to consider if the employee can reasonably continue in her post. The definition of gross misconduct is where there has been a fundemental break down in trust between the employer and employee. By definition therefore, dismissal must be a consequence of gross misconduct as otherwise it would not be gross misconduct. Is that enough legalise for you??

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    andy

    Wednesday, April 3, 2013

  • Google Pattinson and Brewer. They are a firm of 'no win no fee' solicitors. Ho hum.

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    Musto_Fan

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • I've heard it all now. I'm surprised there is not anarchy in this country when we hear stories like this. Police usually carry torches. Why didn't she!. I suppose if an intruder had come round the corner and smashed her in the face, she would have sued the garage owner for harbouring the intruder. What the hell is this country coming to!

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    MIKEJ

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Andy: I think that Stephen Betts has locked himself in the underground bunker in the hope that this has all gone away before he comes up into the daylight again!!!

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    inactive user

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I thought the police were supposed to be lithe and fit. Have you seen this one? She couldn't see her own feet (no wonder she fell over them) and couldn't outrun an 90 year old with a zimmer frame. I hope the judge if he is forced to award her damages gives her 1 penny and a jolly good talking to. In any event the press photos show her trotting around with hubby well able to go shopping and get in and out of their 4x4 after the absolutely frightful accident this poor little flower has suffered. I hope a really good QC offers their services pro bono to the garage owner who should start by suing the police for sending this specimen who is clearly unfit for duty to investigate an incident where she might have had to give chase or even break into a sedate trot..

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    Electra

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • A disgrace to the Service and all those dedicated officers who bravely face danger whenever called upon to do so. She is not a fit person to be a police officer and should consider her position. The sooner the Service is rid of people like this the better. Urgent action needs to be taken to preserve the reputation of Norfolk Constabulary and the faith the public have in the Police

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    Edmund Allenby

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Talking about filters, my last post was filtered. It concerned Phil Gormley and the anonymous Norfolk Police spokeman, and questioned if they were one person or two.

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    Rhombus

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • Splash ..absolutely agree with you! Like you I served in both the Military and with the Police Service This officer is a disgrace to her uniform and to Norfolk Constabulary. I know of many dedicated officers who selflessly show great bravery and dedication in serving the public but regrettably she is clearly not one of them. For their sake, and for the reputation of policing, I would hope that people like her are quickly weeded out ..they serve no one but themselves. .

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    Edmund Allenby

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Google Pattinson and Brewer. They are a firm of 'no win no fee' solicitors. Ho hum.

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    Musto_Fan

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • If I have to call the Police I daren't do it after midnight as Norfolk County Council switch off all our street lights then to save money. What happens if the boys in blue come round in the dark and trip over my kerb??

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    Norfolk and Good

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Apparently she is off work with an injured knee. Hope it doesn't stop her getting out and about to do her shopping or drive to pick her kids up from school, or hinder her ability to negotiate kerbs when (if) she goes back on duty. Can't think why she isn't doing office duties while she is not very mobile.

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    Rhombus

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • so she turns up at the station looking for an intruder, did she not do a dynamic risk assessment, i think not other wise she would of realise the inherant dangers such as being dark,so did she use her torch, with her attidue what would of happened if she found an intruder...ordered the garage owner to make a citizans arrest, so not to put her self in harm. Why did she not sue the police force they were the ones that sent her there, or maybe the garage owner should sue the force for sending an officer that may not be fully trained ( because if she were maybe she would of been more aware of her surroundings. But lets face it she may have eyesight problems as i sure thousand of people are aware of roadside kerbs

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    Cromer cranky

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • It will be interesting, if she ever comes back to work and tries to nick someone for, " kerb crawling." That would spawn a whole load of new jokes. Bless her.

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    BG

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I thought police officers had the use of their PPE and equipment like 'torches' to let them see in areas not lit adequately. It won't go far due to the police officer not following her health and safety method statements.

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    Skoalbandit

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Forgot to say. Fish and Chip shops be on your guard. If they choke on a fish bone they will be suing you

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    Jacob Burns

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • There is a very interesting background concerning this case and once such details become known to the public as to the reason for her current "Sickness" over a period of several months relative to un associated matters to this Trip Fall claim she may then be seen in a very different light by both the public and the courts

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    Claire Voyant

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Too right blueflash !

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    Anne Marks

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • This officer is the person who has primary responsibility for her own health & safety. This is an important part of her training. She is also issued with equipment to help in this area - a torch. From guidance to Police from the Health & Safety Executive: "What officers and staff should expect of the Police Service Good health and safety management systems that: ...enable officers and staff to take appropriate care for their own, their colleagues’ and the public’s health and safety;.." It is reported that she walked into a darkened area at midnight without using her issued torch to check that it was safe to do so. It was her responsibility to check that it was safe from her training and by health & safety guidance. Through her own incompetence an officer was apparently injured. She should be disciplined for negligence in not following her training or for using her equipment.

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    JonastheLith

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I understand that she's claiming £50,000 for loss of overtime and allowances. My goodness those police get good allowances. I saw below that she's doing exactly what any member of the public would do. If so I would hope that the member of the public would be publicly ridiculed too.

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    DocOhNo

    Friday, April 5, 2013

  • Actually Doc you are almost correct apart from the last few words. In this case the police would probably threaten to arrest the victim for potentially causing harm to an intruder. GIves a whole new meaning to 'mind how go.'

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    andy

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Are we back to good old censorship here? what has happened to my comment moderator, did you or your boss take exception to me pointing out that the Police federation needs urgent reform after their latest self serving 'whipgate'?

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Maybe the word Pleb was used. That would be a treasonable offence.or Tory cuts agenda on their pensions.Police Fed my a....

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    PaulH

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • This officer is the person who has primary responsibility for her own health & safety. This is an important part of her training. She is also issued with equipment to help in this area - a torch. From guidance to Police from the Health & Safety Executive: "What officers and staff should expect of the Police Service Good health and safety management systems that: ...enable officers and staff to take appropriate care for their own, their colleagues’ and the public’s health and safety;.." It is reported that she walked into a darkened area at midnight without using her issued torch to check that it was safe to do so. It was her responsibility to check that it was safe from her training and by health & safety guidance. Through her own incompetence an officer was apparently injured. She should be disciplined for negligence in not following her training or for using her equipment.

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    JonastheLith

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Splash, I sympathise but I think perhaps dinosaur detective is more on the mark with this. I wish it were not the case and I don't agree we get the police force we deserve. I doubt anyone supports this officer any more than we find it acceptable that the police far too often issue cautions when there should be prosecutions. It is true that far too often you are let down by the CPS, lawyers and judges. But we have also to ask about the attitude of the police federation. I find their attitude deplorable on too many occasions and that is down to the police and not the public.

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    andy

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • MUSTO FAN - if it's been reported in today's Telegraph, it should filter through to the EDP by about a week next Friday! (HONEST JOHN - how do we know it's not YOU using somebody else's user name???)

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    Mr Milliband S'Even-Bigger-Porkpies

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • This may not be an April fool joke but I bet the money-grubbing lawyers will be laughing all the way to the bank.

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    Thoreauwasright

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I guess the constable had no idea her compo claim was going to have the media repercussions it has. Beguiled by the constant advertising of accident claims handling on TV, radio and in the newspapers - and aided and abetted by the Federation who gain commission from referals to claims lawyers - the WPC probably thought there was no harm in putting in a legal claim expecting it to be resolved quietly with a modest but useful settlement from the insurers. She probably didn't bargain for the fact that the respondent was going to make it public; bad risk assessment there, then. As for the lawyers, I regard their conduct with despicion. They have gone way over the top with their claim, made themselves and their client a laughing stock and the subject of public vilification, and discredited this entire type of litigation to the extent that Parliament might now intervene in order to curb such exaggerated and disreputable claims. Tripped up there I think. I feel some sympathy for the WPC - getting back to work as normal will now be incredibly difficult even if she quietly drops the action, and the stress caused by the media's public shaming of her could be quite damaging to herself and her family. And I would say to some of the commentators in this piece that there comes a time to stop the stoning and let it rest.

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    JCW

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Before long the police will stop going to any problem if this is always going to happen, you joined get on with it. You do not here "our hero's" in the forces complaing.

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    Derek McDonald

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • @andy I do take issue with your comment: a contributor to an HYS site who, without the full facts of the case, supports others' views that PC Jones should be dismissed. Of course, if the Chief Constable feels the same way, then he can speak for himself; he certainly does not need you to put words into his mouth.

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    Musto_Fan

    Wednesday, April 3, 2013

  • Nice one EDP 24 hours after the story goes national and the police chief hits out, then suddenly we are aloud to make comments on the story. So who decides what stories we can and cannot comment on at the EDP.?

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    ggj666

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Musto, if you actually bothered to read what I have put in the post to which you have responded, I have stated the legal position which applies to everyone. It is called employment law. I suggest that you read this article and the comments made by the Chief Constable for starters or are you saying he is no position to make a comment?? There is always a danger of a trial within the media but there is an important principle at stake here about an officer claiming against a member of the public following a call out. The strength and scale of comment that has arisen both locally and nationally should suggest even to you that there is very little, if any, public support and I still contend that her action has brought the police into disrepute which is a great shame for all those hard working police officers. Incidentally, are you in favour of the proposed new law on the restrictions on freedom of the press? Would you have stopped this article from being published if you had the power to do so?

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    andy

    Wednesday, April 3, 2013

  • If Mr Gormley is as upset as he appears to be I hope he thinks about investigating this officer under the disciplinary code for bringing the force into disrepute. Norfolk Police must be the laughing stock of the country at the moment and I would not be surprised if the story has not gone viral either. And where is Mr Bett, still politicising about the housing subsidy I shouldn`t wonder. Anything but doing the job he is paid to do .

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    BG

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Ok slippery crisp packet has now been isolated and de-fused.. all thanks to suffolk police who are the best in the world. imo. as for you norfolk people you need a good dose of common sense..you voted the ego nutters in power, now deal with it!! they have very deep pockets in norfolk apparently...maybe suffolk fraud squad should check out all norfolk management and norse.. just my opinion..

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    Dave01

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • APB. All points bullitin. We have slippery frost and a leaf by the curb.. we know suffolk police are prepared but we must inform norfolk police to not get out of their cars as there is a high risk of stepping on a crisp packet.. please close all roads as a precaution.. whilst neighbours check out the crisp packet.. APB over..

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    Dave01

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • In the private sector anyone who brought their employer into disrepute, and bear in ind this is now national news, would be suspended and subject to an investigation. The chief constable is correctb in saying this undermines the police and one must hope that frather more is happening behind the scenes than just his statement.

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    andy

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I have read what is said to be a copy of the letter the solicitors sent to the garage owner. Amongst other things it said there should be a warning sign by the kerb which should be clearly marked!! Just what sort of people are the police and others recruiting these days?,I have read what is said to be a copy of the letter the solicitors sent to the garage owner. Amongst other things it said there should be a warning sign by the kerb which should be clearly marked!! Just what sort of people are the police and others recruiting these days?? If I knew where she lived I would go round and then sue her when I walked into her closed front door because it did not have a warning sign on it!!! There are three categories of people we should not allow anywhere near the law or legal matters. The police, lawyers and judges! Oh you can add politicians to that list too.

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    andy

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • @Anne Marks Are you are a specialist in employment law? On what grounds she should be dismissed?

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    Musto_Fan

    Wednesday, April 3, 2013

  • Did the Norfolk Constabulary carry out a Risk Assessment to see if this PCW was fit for duty? If so, what went wrong? The Police Federation has many issues to be challenged with. Apart from supporting this fatuous claim, they apparantly supported an attempt to smear and remove a duly elected and appointed cabinet minister, wanted the power to call strikes etc. They seem to be part of the sickness of political correctness (Marxism by another name). Are there any true Police Officers around today?

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    broadsman

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I am a Police Sergeant in a large Midlands force and I have served the community for the last 27 years. I am in my late forties can still run 9.7 on a bleep test and carry out riot duties. I am disgusted by this excuse for a Police Officer, I don't know what Norfolk recruit but I bet she isnt a fair representation of your local force. If she is that unfit she should be retired under A20 and Im sure a lot of her colleagues think the same. Before you all go bashing the Police and placing our Armed Forces on a plinth as it seems politically correct to do these days, I have done both jobs and the Police is by far and away the harder. Don't judge us as one, we are individuals and don't forget you made us! The public get the Police they deserve, the public are the Police and the Police are the public. Just think outside the box and you will get it, unless you want a paramilitary Police like some parts of Europe? I do hope Norfolk Police HR decide she's too unfit to stay in the job and sack her, we don't need this type of Officer ruining over 180 years of the Police protecting the public. Oh, and by the way the Police were started to protect the public from the Army and local militia. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.

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    splash

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I.M.H.O. a person would have to be extremely clumsy or have poor eyesight or be overweight or be totally stupid to trip over a normal kerb, or if the lighting was bad to not use a torch to look where you're going. Whatever the cause, I feel a person who does something like that and then tries to sue the person they are supposed to be helping, brings their profession into disrepute and is totally unsuitable to be employed in a public service like the Police.

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    Mr Milliband S'Even-Bigger-Porkpies

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • It about says it all about the caliber of people recruited into the emergency services nowadays. If its not rescuing someone because of " Elf and Safety" its suing the pants off anyone they can. The Federation ought to hang their heads in shame at their financial backing this action. If it was printed today today 1st April I would have put it down to an April Foll`s joke. But I suppose after all this publicity she will resign and look to sue someone for that.

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    BG

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Well now, anyone not think the Police Federation are at fault in this? Claire Voyant seems to be telling us there is a back story which may make us feel sympathetic towards this officer. Her bosses are saying what a disgrace. Was there no one she spoke to at the Police Federation before she took this action who might have advised caution or counselled her if she was having problems, or even advised her to consult her superiors before resorting to courts?

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    Daisy Roots

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • Phew that was close, crisp packet now in bin for waveney norse to throw on road next week.. do we have to paint all kerbs white in case a police officer comes to our street??

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    Dave01

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • Thousands of decent, hard working cops must be pulling their hair out. This person doesn't deserve the title of Police Officer that others have more respect for. If I were a front line cop, I would be straight onto the Police Federation demanding to know why they were spending the contributions of other officers to support this legal case. Ingo is correct; the Police Federation are quickly turning into a joke.

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    Ellie

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • By the sound of it you will b sued !

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    Anne Marks

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • How odd this all is. Surely in an emergency u can't be deemed to check your premises for every eventuality. Also, there must be an expectation that this police officer came fully equipped to carry out her duties which presumably means bringing her police issue torch without which she is culpable should an accident happen.

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    Sportswagon

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Caller : Hello, is that the Police ? Yes, oh good we're being burgled by an armed gang Police : OK, we'll try to find someone who's not sitting at a roundabout or dealing with drunks & send them over Caller : Ohh.... if you could wait a few hours, it's a bit icy outside so i'll grit the path first, maybe get some floodlights in & have a sweep up so you don't trip over anything Police : OK, we'll come round tomorrow if we can be bothered....... oh and watch those burglars don't slip on their way out or they might sue you !

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    DocScott

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Isn't it time we heard from Police Commissioner Stephen Betts? Who does he support, the police officer or the petrol station owner?? The idea of Health and Safety legislation was to reduce risks not eliminate them. As usual money grasping lawyers, with the assistance of judges, are working this to their own benefit. In most private concerns there would be a clause in the employment contract that says that any individual bringing the employer into disrepute would be guilty of gross misconduct which brings with it the potentil for dismissal. If this does not bring the police into disrepute what does??? Real police officers should also be angry at this but then this has the support of the Police Federation so perhaps there are not too many of those left?

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    andy

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Fine - let her sue. Award her 1p damages, then when the case has finished dismiss her from the force. Next, turn the spotlight on the legal firm she engaged.... Now, where's my passport - truly time to leave this country when it comes to this !

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    JayPee

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Agree with Jonas, james E and blister. Looks like the self preservation of the police force and their federations activities of late need urgent reform. Recruits will act as they see others act, if the training given is, dino detective allures to, that political policing and following party agendas is more important that the service to the public, then we should only switch our street lamps out after assurances from our police constables. A simple kerb stone has the potential to throw an already discredited service into turmoil, what farce.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Well said Splash & Dinosaur Detective. I hope this clumsy so-called police officer gets what she deserves out of her actions - absolutely nothing and the sack for her totally irresponsible attitude towards a member of the public that she's supposed to serve. She certainly already has all of the bad publicity that she deserves. What would have happened if she'd come across a villain (if she could have caught him, which is doubtful by the look of her!) and he'd lashed out at her? Would she be suing instead of prosecuting him? This whole thing makes a mockery of her and the profession that she claims to serve. As for the motley crew of "ambulance chasers" - sorry lawyers - that have taken up the case on her behalf - I cannot find words to describe them which are publishable here. The victim, Steve Jones, should consider counter suing her and her lawyers for so scandalously wasting his time with their pathetic efforts to grab his money for their own benefit.

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    inactive user

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • This police officer is no different to a member of the public, if a member of the public had fallen over this curb, I am sure they would be doing the same as this police officer is doing without it being plastered over the media, I hope this officer gets what she deserves a decent payout, and as for the Chief of Norfolk Police well words fail me.. PRAT !

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    Footyboy16

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I remember a couple of years ago it was in the papers that Cambridgeshire Police would not send their offers out alone after 8pm - presumably they were afraid of the dark? Seems like the Police are more worried about political correctness and Elf 'n' Safety than nicking criminals these days!

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    Mr Milliband S'Even-Bigger-Porkpies

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • It is so confusing when two people are talking at once (Norfolk Constabulary Police Spokesman and Chief Constable Phil Gormley). It is about time our Chief Constable found a voice. Perhaps the EDP should ring him up more often instead of that robotic and anonymous police spokesman they normally ring up.

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    Rhombus

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • Perhaps in their application to be a member of the police force a prospective officer should acknowledge and accept that during the course of their dulies a police officer may encounter unknown hazardous situations ranging from slipping on a banana skin to encountering an armed criminal. PC Jones is obviously not up to the job and is taking the p*** out of the system and the public she is payed to help.

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    Field Man

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I hope Mr Jones remembers that he did warn the officer about the step. It was probably the shock of the letter than has caused him to forget.

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    Rhombus

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Did the WPC file a near miss and fill in the accident report book? I am now in the process of designing a home welcome pack for visitors and guests, please read before entering my property noting the exits and fire assembly area, all hazards are marked on a plan including a designated walkway past the kettle to avoid scalding. I will ask you to sign a waiver if you accept an offer of a snack or hot beverage just incase you are intolerant to any ingredients. The way this country is going. Give it a few years and this will probably be normal procedure.

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    Skoalbandit

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • So her solicitor says there was no lighting.. there is no lighting in a lot of Norfolk streets so can we now sue the councils if we trip over them???

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    marshall

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • I have just resigned from this job due to corrupt senior managers and officers joining for the wron reasons this has just confirmed i made the right choice. Gormley has only commented because he this has hit the public arena.

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    job

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • @andy No, it is not enough legalise; far from it, as more information is needed. Unless you know this woman and have a copy of her contract her employment, you are not in a position to determine whether or not she should be dismissed from her job and, more to the point, it is not your decision.

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    Musto_Fan

    Wednesday, April 3, 2013

  • Interesting that someone else has my user name - as none of the previous comments were made by me.

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    Honest John

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • I have felt for a long time that there is inadequate appraisal of the character and attitudes of recruits, their prejudices politics etc but this takes the biscuit. It would be unfair I think to attribute this to the sex of the officer and I wonder if it is more a result of the elevation of the status of the police under the Labour government, the same over -praise which seems to have had a similar effect on attitudes and performance in the nursing profession. Compare this with the constant thrashing the teaching profession has received in the last 15 years. However, while there are still officers like the dog handler who a while back waded into flooded Welney Wash in pursuit of possibly violent housebreakers, it can be hoped that this grasping individual is an exception.

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    Daisy Roots

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • What about the other officer who was with her? She couldn`t have been out in the dark on her lonesome - surely not. Even during the day they go round in twos now. I agree with you Electra. If the reason she is off on sick leave is because she is pregnant ok but if not, heavens above. No wonder she needs a 4 x 4. Police force has gone to pot. The police Federation doesn`t seem to get it at all nowadays.

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    BG

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Zero tolerance !, she should be dismissed, what sort of message is this sending out to others, who will be next to be sued by a member of the Emergency services !, we as the Tax-payer's pay her wages and will foot the bill !

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    Anne Marks

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • I will certainly think twice about calling the police in case they sue me for something, lost all faith in the police anyway after watching the channel 4 programme about the handling of the Andrew Mitchell pleb gate affair, the police seem much to interested in a political agenda and their own welfare than serving the public

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    blister

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • It's been reported in today's Telegraph that the PC in question wants to drop the compensation claim.

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    Musto_Fan

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • I think I've spotted the April Fool's story and I claim my five pounds.

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    country bumkin

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • The case is being supported by the Police Federation, weren't they heavily involved in "Plebgate". Will the police witnesses be as honest this time?

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    DocOhNo

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • If I have to call the Police I daren't do it after midnight as Norfolk County Council switch off all our street lights then to save money. What happens if the boys in blue come round in the dark and trip over my kerb??

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    Norfolk and Good

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Caller : Hello, is that the Police ? Yes, oh good we're being burgled by an armed gang Police : OK, we'll try to find someone who's not sitting at a roundabout or dealing with drunks & send them over Caller : Ohh.... if you could wait a few hours, it's a bit icy outside so i'll grit the path first, maybe get some floodlights in & have a sweep up so you don't trip over anything Police : OK, we'll come round tomorrow if we can be bothered....... oh and watch those burglars don't slip on their way out or they might sue you !

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    DocScott

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • @andy I do take issue with your comments: a contributor to a HYS site deciding the fact of someone without full knowledge of the facts. If the Chief Constable feels that her actions are grounds for dismissal, then let him say it. He does not need you to speak for him. On the issue of restricted freedom of the press, let me say this: if PC Jones was pursuing a compensation claim directly against her employer, rather than the fuel station owner, unless she courted the media in first place, it is unlikely that she and this story would have been in the public domain. When it comes to dealing with the media, things are not quite so black and white as you might imagine.

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    Musto_Fan

    Wednesday, April 3, 2013

  • Doc Scott. You forgot the eating fish and chips at the roundabout as they do on Norwich Road in Thetford

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    Jacob Burns

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • The police lost the confidence of the public many years ago,so incidents like this just rub salt in the wound. I am more interested in the percentage of burgularies and other crime they solve,and why the only time you see them is lurking at the side of the road,going for the easy targets of allegedly speeding motorists! It's nice to know the part of your council tax that goes to the police is being spent wisely and effectively!

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    Harry Rabinowitz

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I have just resigned from this job due to corrupt senior managers and officers joining for the wron reasons this has just confirmed i made the right choice. Gormley has only commented because he this has hit the public arena.

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    job

    Tuesday, April 2, 2013

  • Why no comment from Stephen Betts? What was he elected for??

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    andy

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • As Norfolk County Council now switches off all our street lights at night to save money, does this mean I can sue them if I trip over the kerb outside my house due to "inadequate lighting"??

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    Norfolk and Good

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • i reckon she is one of these models who turn up at stag nights for a laugh,and got sent to the wrong place.if not she should be.what a disgrace she is.

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    bluelight

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Not clear what the basis is for her claim. Has the 'incident' curtailed or ended her career? It seems not, nor is there evidence of any lasting effects, physical or psychological. Nope, this is another get rich quick compensation scam motivated by greed and facilitated by immoral solicitors. There are a lot of people around who make a living out of this sort of thing, I believe it is called fraud.

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    Police Commissioner ???

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I thought the police were supposed to be lithe and fit. Have you seen this one? She couldn't see her own feet (no wonder she fell over them) and couldn't outrun an 90 year old with a zimmer frame. I hope the judge if he is forced to award her damages gives her 1 penny and a jolly good talking to. In any event the press photos show her trotting around with hubby well able to go shopping and get in and out of their 4x4 after the absolutely frightful accident this poor little flower has suffered. I hope a really good QC offers their services pro bono to the garage owner who should start by suing the police for sending this specimen who is clearly unfit for duty to investigate an incident where she might have had to give chase or even break into a sedate trot..

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    Electra

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • come on commissioner, recruit real police,with a sense of duty, not so many social workers in uniform

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    richguyb

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • I will certainly think twice about calling the police in case they sue me for something, lost all faith in the police anyway after watching the channel 4 programme about the handling of the Andrew Mitchell pleb gate affair, the police seem much to interested in a political agenda and their own welfare than serving the public

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    blister

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Commissioner Betts has been spotted at Fakenham today, however refusing to pick up the bat-phone or making any comment.

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    Bruce87

    Monday, April 1, 2013

  • Having served 30 years as a police officer I am ashamed of how the Police Force (sorry Service) has developed. Recruits are brainwashed to become politically correct pseudo social workers with little regard for victims or detecting solveable crimes.. In recent times with the aid of the PFappointed ambulance chasers a compensation culture has developed for the slightest injury. What a sad state of affairs. So, RIP (Real) Police Force 1829 to 1980

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    dinosaur detective

    Monday, April 1, 2013

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