Call for drivers to get armed with ‘dashcams’ to become eyes and ears of police on the roads

The G4S van with an open hatch passes the driving instructor's car. The G4S van with an open hatch passes the driving instructor's car.

Monday, January 6, 2014
12:20 PM

Police want motorists to help trap reckless drivers by sending in their videos of bad behaviour on the roads, it has been reported.

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Increasing numbers of drivers are buying dashcams cameras placed on dashboards to beat crash for cash scams or to reduce insurance premiums.

The cameras are available for as little as 70 and police forces across the country are keen to tap into a network that would give them tens of thousands of extra eyes on the road.

Dashcam footage has already been used to prosecute a driver who sped off through a junction on the wrong side of the road after a near miss.

Last year Norwich driving instructor Paul Harmes captured footage ofg a G4S van which had been driving through the city with bags of money visible through an open hatch.

Mr Harmes shot the footage as the van drove along the citys ring road, where Boundary Road becomes Sweet Briar Road.

The van overtakes Mr Harmess car at the traffic lights and when the van pulls over in a layby later on, Mr Harmes notices the money is visible through an open hatch.

What do you think? Would you think about buying a dashcam to help become the eyes and ears of the police on our roads? Post a comment below.

31 comments

  • Good idea. Even better if 10% of any fine imposed went back to the person who secured the evidence that enabled the police to prosecute. I reckon you could make a decent wedge just from idiots who still insist on using their mobile phones when driving.

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    Betty Swallocks

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Don't forget, if you do send a video in you'll be a witness who has to appear in court to giev evidence of where & when you filmed it & that you didn't actually manufacture the whole film or edit it. And as video comes under the data protection act, you'd be liable for adhering to those rules too. Could be a really expensive thing to do.

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    john smith

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • To use a video clip from a car dashcam in court proceedings the prosecution you would have to have a statement from owner and driver of the vehicle involved. This in turn could lead to the person providing the video having to make a court appearance which would seem to me to be an unattractive proposition for the majority of drivers using dashcams. Whilst dashcams have and are useful tools to prove your innocence in an accident which wasn't your fault they are also , fortunately, inadmissible on their own as evidence without without the addition of a statement from the owner. Fortunately, we haven't as yet, as a society, resorted to making people guilty simply on the basis of a unsupported video clip, which is just as well considering how many people appear overly keen to want to spy on others.

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    Bad Form

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • I took this car driver turning right at a NO RIGHT TURN from Costessey Lane and Drayton Road. He also only just missed the motorcyclist. I sent a email with the video to the police but they only acknowledged receipt of the email. The video can be seen at http:www.youtube.comwatch?v=mAF_v1TbEWs

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    paul sergent

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • I agree with the concept but as a population with the highest number of CCTV cameras per capita anywhere in Europe where will this all end? Another state intervention in controlling the populace.

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    Toxteth O'Grady

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • As a Motorcyclist regularly using A roads, I have a camera attached to the mirror arm of my bike. Motorcyclists are particularly vulnerable, and tend to suffer more from the effects of bad drivers than say another car driver would. I've never had cause to send in any footage yet - But it's there as a "safety net" should the worst happen. If it's there in full glorious technicolour, then it cannot be disputed!

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    Jay Hill

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • A load of garbage. Only people who are going to do this are the type of morons who will purposely drive at half of the speed limit to wind up the people behind and cause them to take chances. Total invasion of privacy too. I don't want people to be filming my while I'm driving - I'm sure I'm not alone on that one. If the police are wanting to catch more dangerous drivers they should get off their backsides and do it. Whats to say the people filming haven't been winding other drivers up for the past x amount of miles.

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    Dude2013

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Well I have often wished I had one on the Dereham bypass when the usual reckless overtakers are out in abundance-but a policeman friend says dash cams can bite you on the b*m if you make a driving error yourself.

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    Daisy Roots

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • I can only take the remark from dude2013 that he is one of these drivers who take a speed limit to mean he has to drive at that speed and expects everybody else to do the same. I understand a speed limit is exactly that a limit not a statutory speed to be driven at all the time.if you are late then leave earlier don't tailgate the person in front who has left themselves plenty of time. just heard on the news some drivers in Norfolk have as many as 49 points for speeding and are still driving. says a lot for the courts doesn't it?

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    i am mostly wrong??

    Tuesday, January 7, 2014

  • Police want us to do there donkey work now, no way, you are paid you get on with it

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    Derek McDonald

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • I would film all the Tesco trucks breaking the law by lumbering along the A47 at 39mph, holding up miles of traffic and not pulling over to let it past (Highway Code section 169)...... Plus of course all the tractors that do exactly the same!

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    Mr Milliband S'Even-Bigger-Porkpies

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • For a little over £20 on Amazon, I have found them great and posted some great little videos of some right plonkers on various networking sites, although I haven't sent any to the Old Bill as yet.

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    Unemployed and Luvin it.

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • As a Motorcyclist regularly using A roads, I have a camera attached to the mirror arm of my bike. Motorcyclists are particularly vulnerable, and tend to suffer more from the effects of bad drivers than say another car driver would. I've never had cause to send in any footage yet - But it's there as a "safety net" should the worst happen. If it's there in full glorious technicolour, then it cannot be disputed!

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    Jay Hill

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Citizen having read the Highway Code to determine the content for your comment, did you notice that the absolute maximum speed a HGV can travel on a single lane carriageway is 40MPH. It's not a slow moving farm machinery using a flashing amber light to show it can't travel at more than 25MPH. If they or other HGV's travel at faster than 40MPH they're liable for a speeding fine on a single carriageway! I have a dash cam in my car front and rear not to catch out other drivers but for my own protection after a lovely lady decided that she didn't like the shape of my rear bumper! As for Dude2013 as a driving instructor with large 'L' plates displayed front and rear also the amount of people who try to intimerdate the poor learner driving at just below or at the speed limit is unreal, yes learners can be annoying as they're not sure of what to do approaching situations and drive slowly, I do put my hand up to apologise to road users when I feel it's justified but sometimes people are just in too much of a rush!!!

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    Hewi

    Tuesday, January 7, 2014

  • Totally and utterly agree - the amount of crazy driving, particularly the number of people's who do not have the first clue about signalling on roundabouts, has to be picked up on and addressed. Personally I think all drivers should have an identity card and cars fitted with a card reader so only people insured and who can drive legally can actually start the car...

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    Surrey Canary

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • some will not be happy until they have the Stasi knocking on the door during the night

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    Rorping

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Wonderful idea. When can we introduce vigilante patrols and lynch mobs?

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    Thoreauwasright

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Is this just a smokescreen to disguise further reductions in traffic police?

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    marty r

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Can we have tasers as well please? It's the only language these reckless drivers overtaking Daisy doing 28mph( because she's got little Bluebell in the back, taking her to her music & motion class) understand, And even better if someone comes up with a 'fascia fazer' and we can just evaporate everyone who is slightly irritating!

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    backwoodsman

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • "where Boundary Road becomes Sweet Briar Road." WRONG..The vehicle is in Mile Cross Lane & after the lights the ring road becomes Boundary Road...

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    el84

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • What I would really give good money for is for someone to take a chainsaw to the trees and shrubs that have grown out of control on some of our roundabouts.The powers that be seem to have forgotten that the point of a roundabout is to effect a smooth and accident free interchange with minimum hold ups to traffic.Round here the authorities seem to think that it is ok for some lanes entering roundabouts to have a sightline blocked by a jungle whilst others have a long unimpeded line of sight. Where the speed limit is 60mph this leads to some of the fun and games that might be a subject for a dash cam. One wonders if anyone ever checks the safety of these mini copses after they have been planted up or if it is assumed that contractors will keep the planting at the original size-which they don't.

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    Daisy Roots

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Isn't it amazing how everyone claims to be above average at driving - it's always the other people who are the bad drivers. Statistically speaking, YOU probably are the bad driver - you just don't see it, precisely, because... you're a bad driver. I'd bet most people who go on about others' bad driving would be exposed as bad drivers themselves if ever assessed by a class 1 driverrider. The most dangerous drivers are those who genuinely think they are good drivers when they're not.

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    dan

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • On face value it seems like a good idea, but when you think about it then you ask some questions that suggest it's not such a good thing. The police will be swamped with people sending them clips of those they consider to be doing something wrong, but you can bet your mortgage on the fact all clips will be edited to remove any personal wrong doing! Much like the football ref only booking the player who retaliates.

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    KeithS

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • A sinister idea in a country obsessed with spying on it's own citizens! With a camera for every 14 people in the uk,to seriously suggest that motorists should spy on each other in order to make the policing of the roads more effective just about sums up the mentality of the state we are in! Best left to the forces of law and order to prosecute bad drivers,after all they have the fastest most expensive cars bristling with the latest technology,courtesy of the taxpayer.

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    Harry Rabinowitz

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Sounds like a good idea, however, if the public are now expected to be the "eyes and ears" of the Police shouldn't they be issued free to every motorist who has a good driving record of say, twenty years, with no accidents or convictions? Has to be some kind of incentive to law abiding citizens, either that or a big reduction in insurance premium. Then again, maybe not, is it worth the worry of having your car vandalised by someone you have reported? As with all good ideas there are potential drawbacks.

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    Mr T

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • I've had a dashcam for a while now. But the aim is not to catch other drivers but to prove that when I hit that cyclist (or whatever) I have evidence to suggest that it wasn't my fault. Hasn't been needed yet but I presume that other road users behave when they see my camera!!! (Joking - but a pity the camera isn't fitted with a blue flashing light).

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    JackH-1938

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Had one for nearly 2 years, have own youtube channel dedicated to highlighting these idiots on the roads downunder. http:youtu.berJp7ze6vQUY

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    dr.zack

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • dan I totally disagree with you, a very high percentage of drivers out there are lunatics. Every single day I experience drivers that are impatient and intimidating on the road, and statistically speaking most accidents are caused by human error (high speed and driving too close to others).

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    Ar ya reet boi?

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • Isn't it amazing how everyone claims to be above average at driving - it's always the other people who are the bad drivers. Statistically speaking, YOU probably are the bad driver - you just don't see it, precisely, because... you're a bad driver. I'd bet most people who go on about others' bad driving would be exposed as bad drivers themselves if ever assessed by a class 1 driverrider. The most dangerous drivers are those who genuinely think they are good drivers when they're not.

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    dan

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • I agree about the dangers of slow moving trucks and tractors in particular. This article should be clear that if you send a dash cam film in to report it you'll have to go to court as a witness, and you'll be liable to comply with the data protection act too.

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    john smith

    Monday, January 6, 2014

  • What exactly are we paying plod for, through the council tax ???

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    "V"

    Monday, January 6, 2014

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