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Watch: Norwich landlord cannot access his pub due to road works

PUBLISHED: 09:45 18 March 2016 | UPDATED: 11:58 18 March 2016

Landlord Phil Cutter of the Murderers, who is fed up with the city road works stopping access to Timberhill after 7pm. Picture: DENISE BRADLEY

Landlord Phil Cutter of the Murderers, who is fed up with the city road works stopping access to Timberhill after 7pm. Picture: DENISE BRADLEY

Copyright: Archant 2016

Parts of the city are a “no-go zone” in the evening because of road closures, a leading pub landlord said today.

Philip Cutter from The Murderers on Timber Hill said trade had plummeted because it was unreachable by road for long periods.

Nearby businesses reported a similar drop in trade - and they rounded on those behind the road scheme, saying they did not know “what road closures tomorrow would bring”.

Norfolk County Council admitted the road works are disruptive but said there was wide spread publicity of the road closures beforehand.

Mr Cutter has demonstrated the problem in a YouTube video, filmed with a dashboard camera, which shows him driving around Norwich, trying to find a route to the pub.

He said the situation was “beyond a joke”.

“In the evening we have seen a massive drop in trade and it is really frustrating as we did not know about what was going to happen,” he said. “They have effectively made the city a no-go zone in the evening and I pay thousands of pounds in business rates and at the moment I am getting nothing out of it.”

Roads in the city centre including Cattle Market Street, Golden Ball Street and Rouen Road have been closed overnight from 7pm since Monday as Norfolk County Council carries out resurfacing and lining work as part of the Transport for Norwich scheme.

Mr Cutter said he understood that roadworks need to be carried out but believed it could have been made easier for businesses. “I know work has got to be done but it seems that it has all gone through really quickly with no regard to how it may affect businesses in the city,” he said.

Kestral Taxis on Ber Street said it had not had any walk-in customers this week, while Richard Sparrow of The Woolpack pub on Golden Ball Street said they had been much quieter than usual.

“There has been a notable different to the amount of customers we have seen in the pub this week and during some evenings we have only served a handful of people,” he said. “The issue with the works is that you don’t know what road closures tomorrow is going to bring.”

Businesses were critical of the communication from Norfolk County Council. Stefan Gurney, executive director of Norwich Business Improvement District, said it was something he was trying to address.

“The biggest issue is around communications with businesses as it appears road closures are changing everyday and the council needs to inform them as it is their livelihoods we are talking about,” he said.

A spokesperson for Norfolk County Council said there was widespread publicity for the work but admitted that they should have contacted businesses.

“Although there was signage in place and leafleting of the firms along the route beforehand, we do recognise in hindsight we should have contacted businesses on nearby Timber Hill and would apologise for any inconvenience caused.” They added; “Access to Timber Hill has been maintained throughout the works and we have put in extra signs to help make it clearer access is via Ber Street during the five nights of overnight closures which finishes tonight.”

■ Are you being badly affected by the roadworks in Norwich city centre? Email dan.grimmer@archant.co.uk

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29 comments

  • Arfur - when have I told you to live in a communist country? Could that be a freudian slip? As for being Ted, are you accusing me of having dual personalities? If I did, then that would be anti-disabled, so you'd be attacking one of the groups you get on your high horse for. No - I'm not anyone else, but it shows that you're getting a reputation for the flavour of your politics and how you automatically go against certain groups.

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    So_Many_Haters!

    Saturday, March 19, 2016

  • Have we lost our legs! The main reason the city is so congested is because people who able bodied are too lazy to access the city other than drive. If you are capable of walking and within 45 minutes walking distance, WALK! The walk home will be pretty entertaining after a few drinks anyway.

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    spamaramalam

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • So how was his photo taken then if he can't get there??

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    Urbancommander

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Very confused. His pub is outside the roadworks. People in cars can't access the road his pub is in anyway because the road is pedestrianised. All the car parks his customers normally use are still open and fully accessible. Deliveries can still access his pub without hindrance. Is he after compensation or a reduction in business rates or is this just a way to drum up some free advertising? There is nowhere for him to park outside his pub anyway so exactly where was he going to park?. Is he one of those people who just dumps his car on the footpath?

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    Pete Tilbury

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Look no good complaining to Bert and Alan they having bigger fish to fry,maybe open a cycle shop that would keep the Internationalist on the CC more than happy.

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    PaulH

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • I had excatly the same trouble last night as I live off Rouen Road. Took my daughter over to her friends came back 20mins later and I can't get home. Had to then go all the way round the city up grapes hill to chapelfield and along queens road into finkle gate then ber street to get to rouen. But if a few weeks I wont even be able to this as there closing the top of thorns lane so then I will have to go all the way round to bracondale and come in via king street. Took me a extra 20 mins to get home. Soon nobody will be able to get into the city to shop this will destroy the centre of Norwich and people will resort to buying online or outside of the city.

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    Susan Jones

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Yet another example of the planners and highways failing its customers. Surely sometime soon someone in charge at Norfolk Council will start asking questions about why contractors take so long and cause so much chaos, does no one have control of these contracts. As an example, so far it has taken 3 weeks to replace traffic lights in Drayton, and guess what, when they eventually work they will be red,orange,green just like the old ones. So who actually benefits from changing the lights? Why is it so chaotic? Surely if the work is planned properly,and assuming the contractors have changed lights before, 36 hours should be more than sufficient. Hopefully NCC will respond with an explanation...but I'll not hold my breathe.

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    Union Jack

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • It's certainly true that there hasn't been vehicular access to Timber Hill for a long time. And yes, it's better to walk anyway. Funny how Alan Partridge used to go on about the pedestrianisation of Norwich years ago. It looks like all his dreams have come true.

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    Josh

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Poor old Ted and So Many Haters, trotting out the old "anti business, why dont you go and live in a communist country" nonsense again. When are you 'two' going to own up that you are in fact the one and the same person?

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    arfur

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Nice photo, I notice the purely coincidentally prominent free room hire sign. Perhaps he could set himself a bed up in there?

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    Only Me

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Why can't he access his pub ? I've walked past it every day this week without any problems & seen loads of other people around the Timber Hill area as well who appear to be able to access it without any problems, the pub has also been open so somebody must have been able to access it, maybe they used their legs and walked a short distance from one of the many local car parks ?

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    RobD

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Just another mess. The slow death of the City continues. I hope someone at the council realises that's not the legacy they may want to be achieving.

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    Resident Smith

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • The pub is a music venue as well, spare a thought for the musicians who have to drop off their gear first. Who would want to lug a drum kit from the nearest car park to the pub.

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    belly

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Norwich is a dying City anyway, especially during the week. Is was once a vibrant City that had a steady nightlife and a buzz, but now some parts area so quite it is embarrassing. The council is just making things worse with ever stranger road 'planning'. I know plenty of people who would come to live in Norwich, but its total lack of drive and nightlife means many other towns and cities will always have the edge.

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    komakino

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Don't you mean the Gardeners pub

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    Derek McDonald

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • This is just another free advert in the EDP for a tame businessman who provides stories. Why not concentrate on delivering some real news that really affects people?

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    Tarquin

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • How is the beer delivered? Nonsense story. It has never been possible to access this pub by car.

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    Bellboy

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • "Norwich landlord cannot access his pub due to road works" shame that there's a drop in trade, not really surprised by this. But the title and last line in the video are clearly nonsense. Cars can still park in all the usual car parks, and we all have feet. If a landlord "cannot access his pub" there's something clearly wrong with him. I walked past it yesterday.

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    monkeynuts

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • arfur is on his anti business crusade again! perhaps he should consider emigrating to a communist country where he would fit in well, Britain always has been a nation of shop keepers, that's what put the great into great britain!

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    ted

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • I know someone who runs a business on Timber Hill and know for a fact that concerns had been raised with the council, they chose of ignore it. The council shows complete and utter disdain for resident and businesses in Norwich.

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    Crazy

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Not everyone who wants to enjoy the City lives in the City. We'd all prefer to walk or use public transport on a night out but that's simply not an option for many. Taxi costs to the city from Norfolk towns and villages are prohibitive and public transport options few and far between, if available at all. ...and if you've got mobility issues, you don't want a hike because you can't be dropped anywhere near. The car is the only solution for many and they'll avoid the city because of this. Not very well thought out if Highways didn't consider at how scheduling multiple roadworks would make getting to parts of the city nigh on impossible and seriously affect trade as a result. It's obvious that this lack of accessibility will be damaging business so not sure why it seems to have come as a surprise to the council.

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    FactsNotFiction

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • It's amazing how certain people are always anti business, despite the fact that businesses employ people and thus allow them to look after themselves instead of being beholden to state handouts. I do agree with the questions about driving to a pub, though. Especially one that is on a pedestrian area and so you cannot drive up to drop people off outside.

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    So_Many_Haters!

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • in Norwich (not Norfolk)

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    Jenkins

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Great video, shows what a truly awful council we have in Norfolk, nobody would need to park outside the pub but people do need to be dropped off outside etc , everything this council attempts to do with the road network n Norwich costs much much more money than forecast and results in chaos.

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    Jenkins

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • How many people exactly are driving to a PUB in the city centre with no parking?

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    Anita Dump

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Without taking the "forever anti-business" stance of arfur, why would people want to drive to The Murderers? It's on Timber Hill, so there's no vehicular access from the front or back unless for deliveries. If you're a customer you should be using a car park (and they're all still open) or, even better as you're drinking, taking the bus or walking.

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    So_Many_Haters!

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • Who drives to a city centre pub anyway?

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    Ben Weeks

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • On the other hand we could view it as small businesses moaning yet again. The poor loves are suffering a little inconvenience for the greater good, and they really don't know how to deal with the fact that there are lots of other people in this city with needs beyond just giving them money.

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    arfur

    Friday, March 18, 2016

  • " .. we do recognise in hindsight we should have contacted businesses .. " Two words: "in hindsight" seem to summarise the council modus operandi -- And this scheme was prefaced with "We hope it works.. " ie 'it's not our money, not our livelihoods ..'

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    Patrick

    Friday, March 18, 2016

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