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12/12/2008, 5:47 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull The truth is out now why the ice sheets are melting, its my friends the polar bear Merry Christmas everyone .    Report

12/12/2008, 6:10 PM kenneth Joined on 14/08/2003 Posts 482 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull I'll leave you to chat amongst yourselves then.    Report

12/12/2008, 6:15 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull  kenneth wrote: I'll leave you to chat amongst yourselves then. A Merry Moose season to you Kenneth!! MMGW sceptism, bridge to nowhere!    Report

12/12/2008, 6:23 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull Come back Ken campaign starts now, tell us your view as Ken See's it. Over to you Ken.    Report

13/12/2008, 6:38 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull  ironsmad wrote: Well done the mancs. BBC NEWS | England | Manchester | Voters reject congestion charge Why don't the Bods get the message,I know most of them are thick and would struggle in the real working world .Wake up morons we not going to pay any more to drive ! LocalGov.co.uk - Your authority on UK Local Government > Local Government News & Analysis > DfT to go ahead with road-pricing trials regardless of Manchester vote    Report

13/12/2008, 7:52 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull How the Mancs make up the loss of the £1-billion will nice to see 6. GREATER MANCHESTER INTEGRATED TRANSPORT STRATEGY AND CONGESTION CHARGING  The Director of Corporate Resources, Mr. S. Arnfield, gave a presentation on a proposed bid to the Government by the Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Authority, in conjunction with the Association of Greater Manchester Authorities, for funding to improve the transport infrastructure across Greater Manchester.  The bid, if successful, would result in a £2.9 billion investment in the Greater Manchester infrastructure which would be made up of:-    - £1.2 - £1.8 billion from the Government; and         - the remainder from the introduction of Congestion Charging.   The bid would be put together as a package which would deliver a range of environmental, social and economic outcomes and avoid transport becoming a constraint on the delivery of economic growth.  Benefits of the package would be:-    - the largest ever local transport investment programme outside London of up to £2.9 billion; and         - an increase in public transport capacity in the morning peak by some 40% along the corridors affected by the charge.   The Government would decide on the Bid and, if Greater Manchester was successful, it would mean:-    - extended metrolinks;         - additional rail rolling stock and platform lengthening;         - new interchanges;         - more park and ride spaces;         - a step change in travel information; and         - a behavioural change programme.   Mr. Arnfield then went on the outline the proposed charges to be introduced which, in summary, were as follows:-    A Two charge points on corridors to regional centre:-           - outer charge point – at/close to M60; and     - inner charge point – at/close to intermediate ring road.         B Charge only during peaks and in peak periods:-           - inbound - 7.00 a.m to 9.30 a.m. (A.M. Peak); and     - outbound - 4.00 p.m. to 6.30 p.m. (P.M. Peak).             - inbound - £2 (M60) and £1 (Ring Road)     - outbound - £1 (M60) and £1 (Ring Road)           - round trip to centre and back - £5.00.         C Range of choices for traveller:-           - change time of trip;     - change mode of travel; and     - consolidate trips.   There would be no charge until the majority of the investment was in place.  Following his presentation, Mr. Arnfield invited and responded to questions from the Forum and encouraged members to give feedback on the proposals.  A number of issues were raised, as follows:-    a) concern at how the extra revenue required would be found if travellers took up the incentives to use alternative travel or change journey times and income from congestion charging was not as high as anticipated.           It was anticipated that there would be general increases in road travel through economic growth and the charging model allowed for some overall reductions.         b) lower paid workers or retail workers who were unable to change the times of their journeys may be penalised;           A scheme was being considered to subsidise the charges for those workers on low income where Employers had effective staff travel plans.         c) vulnerable people who were ill and needed to travel to Manchester to receive medical treatment may be disadvantaged; and           This would be looked at as part of the detailed scheme if the Bid was successful.         d) it could encourage people to find alternative smaller, lesser used roads to try and avoid the routes that incurred charges.           The scheme would aim to ensure that all routes were covered but this would need to be worked out as part of the detailed design.    Report

13/12/2008, 9:32 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull Manchester's road poll was a no brainer from the start; Norwich/Norfolk rejected it last year without even going to the public on a referendum.    Report

16/12/2008, 1:33 AM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull Now for something completely different YouTube - Paquita Ballet Opera Paris Variations    Report

16/12/2008, 2:58 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull No traffic wardens for a year outside Norwich is wonderful news. Only thing is what you do with the redundant wardens. Police chiefs have not allocated any funding to parking enforcement in next year's budget and the force's wardens have been found new jobs, including as police community support officers Evening News 24 - Norfolk set for parking chaos    Report

16/12/2008, 4:41 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull Hope every one enjoyed the ballet ,here's some more finer moves with men without tights. YouTube - Manowar - Sons of Odin { AMV } By PsYh0    Report

18/12/2008, 12:59 AM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull Great news that our troops are to pull out of Iraq,good luck to our forces every where!!!!!! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_uU6aYNXnUk    Report

18/12/2008, 9:41 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull Crimbo is not the same without these http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RfyWfvNz9Z0 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RjNqZYplql0&feature=related    Report

18/12/2008, 9:52 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull    Report

19/12/2008, 4:18 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull Woodforde’s Nelson’s Revenge (ABV 4.5%) - Style: Special Bitter Rich and floral aromas,sweet Norfolk malts and a burst of ‘citrus’ hops embody this mouth-watering premium beer Nelson’s Revenge - Brewing Industry International Awards Cask-conditioned Best Bitter (Silver) 2005 & Champion Best Bitter of Britain (Bronze) 2004    Report

19/12/2008, 9:53 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Reasons to be Cheerfull  ironsmad wrote: I 'm sure NuLabour will bring in the fart-tax just to cheer up our own hard pressed livestock farmers.Some cattle ranchers in true Grit style have have commissioned ex-marines parachutes, with the idea of mass production of fart bags for their beasts. Cowhand Luke Mezt said "The steers don't seem to mind them and we might have to make sure the bags are not red ". Local Mayor Ron Le ruezer said the cattle could also have adverts on the bum/fart bags, giving the ranchers more income and less tax to the white house. Ag. Comm: Proposed livestock tax would put farmers out of business | NBC13.com Farmers get wind of tax on livestock emissions - Australasia, World - The Independent Well with no roast beef on the menu in 2020or2030 or is it 2040 because of the fart-tax,can I exchange my flying credits for imported wild bison from the fields of S/Africa.Maybe the whole of Africa's wild life will be shot in a mass cull to reduce the gas that they fart?. 2015 MacDonald's go the same way as woolies,soya burgers make us fart oh dear.Its mad world ran by mad politicians. No more beef if Britain hopes to cut carbon emissions - Times Online Among politicians there is growing concern over whether Britons will accept the huge lifestyle changes needed if the country is to cut emissions on the scale envisaged. The government faces growing controversy over its plans to build a third runway at Heathrow and expand most regional airports. The runway - which would be ready by 2020 - would take Heathrow's capacity from 480,000 flights a year to more than 700,000.    Report

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