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16/11/2008, 8:04 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad)  GreenBlue wrote: Madtosh needs to return his books to the Fiction section of the Forum; and take are rare trip to non fiction.      Well its nice to know some one on this Earth can unravel all the NWO global clap-trap, which is fiction.       http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/mclean/mclean_IPCC_review_final_9-5-07.pdf    Report

16/11/2008, 8:05 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad)  GreenBlue wrote: Madtosh needs to return his books to the Fiction section of the Forum; and take are rare trip to non fiction.      Well its nice to know some one on this Earth can unravel all the NWO global clap-trap, which is fiction.       http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/mclean/mclean_IPCC_review_final_9-5-07.pdf    Report

17/11/2008, 7:01 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,600 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) Non fiction, not the comedy section. SPPI are a pseudo science front for the discredited and exxonmobil Fontiers on freedom neo cons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_Public_Policy_Institute    Report

17/11/2008, 12:27 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad)  GreenBlue wrote: Non fiction, not the comedy section. SPPI are a pseudo science front for the discredited and exxonmobil Fontiers on freedom neo cons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_Public_Policy_Institute                   Science and the public and the the NEW WORLD ORDER, its all about control. No more free thinking.                     http://www.k4cc.org/bkcc/BESEECH%20GENERIC%20SCENARIOS_v4_FINALREPORT.pdf    Report

18/11/2008, 6:38 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,600 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) Tosh.Perfection and the ideal doesn't exist. I practice free thinking and science. However for anyone to take notice what I conclude has to be relevant and have a consensus. What the oil paid whingers have has neither. 2% of  climate scientists is a micro minority paid to say what Thatchers sidekick pays them to say.So they whinge noones listening and cry foul like the scientists hired by the tobacco industry in the 1970/1980s. Free to justify continuing killing and maiming, without the ethics.    Report

18/11/2008, 12:59 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) Its a living planet, never been perfect, never will. MichaelCrichton.com | The Case for Skepticism on Global Warming    Report

18/11/2008, 8:11 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,600 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) That 3 years ago. I was reading sceptic critiques by Bellamy and Jones in 2003; since then they have changed their mights to the reality.    Report

18/11/2008, 8:56 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad)  GreenBlue wrote: That 3 years ago. I was reading sceptic critiques by Bellamy and Jones in 2003; since then they have changed their mights to the reality.          David Bellamy changed views ? Uhhhhhhh don't think so Bluebottle, once the pride of the beeb, until they took the global clap trap!. now banished because he is a free thinker.       David Attenborough only changed his view last year, after realising he would not get any more slots on the beeb .      David Bellamy: Caring for the earth - Liverpool Daily Post.co.uk       Professor David Bellamy OBE — Oxford BrookesBrookes University      Today’s forecast: yet another blast of hot air | David Bellamy - Times Online      The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame - Telegraph        Now what American oil company pocket is our Dave in ?    Report

19/11/2008, 5:37 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,600 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) Perhaps he has! Perhaps we should rename this post Bell Mad? So can you explain this? http://www.p-a-in.co.uk/david%20bellamy.htm Why  Bellemy is anti incinerator on a CO2 global warming ticket?    Report

19/11/2008, 5:48 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,600 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) Another free thinking maverik George Monbiot saw Dave off in 2004, the details of the exchange very interesting. Dave isn't a climate scientist, just a butterfly collector. http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/08/19/correspondence-with-david-bellamy/    Report

19/11/2008, 6:51 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,600 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) Perhaps he's changed his mind again? Bellemy was using oil company sponsored bodies/research to support most of his views http://www.layscience.net/node/209    Report

19/11/2008, 1:36 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) Dave cares about the environment and like myself knows we have pollution problems with burning crap,it is in opinion of myself that See's Government global warming claptrap and the building of incinerators to be farcical and one big con.Green taxes = BIG CON. Private companies don't want to spend bucks investing in the new technologies to deal with crap. Its that simple Bluebottle.    Report

19/11/2008, 9:19 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,600 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) Actually Dave boy was given the BBC boot not just due to his anti MMGH frauds, but because he was over the hill, self publicising and 90% nutty. Dave B approaches waste issues as a Zero Waster. The first sensible thing you've said in months, indeed burners are a complete PFI public debt con! Cheapest solution are grappling recycle and composting back to farmland/markets are big Dave actively promotes, when he's not making a mint for verbosturous lecturing.          Report

20/11/2008, 10:54 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) What is going on in this country when people get fined more for bin crimes, than yobs who shoot at people with airguns ? VE HAV VAYES OF MAKIN YOU OBEY    Sarah Holmes, placing 7 bags of excess waste out for collection, £100 fine plus 15 per cent surcharge and £194 costs. Evening News 24 - Noisy workman shot in the leg Funny old world    Report

21/11/2008, 7:21 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,600 Re: This country is mad (bin-mad) As I remember littering always carried a £50 fine historically. ie Irresponsibly folk littering streets /environment. Problem was since 1979 Thatchers government cut the police and local government so these offenses couldn't be enforced and folks though, throw a bag here and no come backs. Remembering back to the 1970's my folks always put their rubbish in the dustbin and never dumped sideway. Problem is modern throwaway wasteful culture, and worst cases like Sarah Holmes coming into to conflict with new waste/litter rules; and coming a cropper. Sarah Holmes was daft as a doorknob. Knowing you can't put out side waste, more than in her 240lbin allowance, what does she do? She litters the street with side waste. Doh! Bag littering the streets in effect, encouraging rats and foxes like madtosh is always ranting on about. She should have taken them down the dump or asked for a 360l bigger family bin. I wonder how she produced 7 extra bags worth than most people; or another way of looking at it, how much in those 7 bags that she could have recycled in her probably empty recycle bin The problem is the law is washy water weak on air pistols/bb guns. Basically firing a weapon of these types at others should carry a custodial sentence. The problem isn't fines for side waste street littering; its weak laws/ punishments for air pistols/BBguns.    Report

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