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 08/06/2009, 9:38 PM
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Iftikhar Ahmad
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Muslim Children and Sex Education
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Muslim Children and Sex Education
Muslim parents teach their children to respect their teachers. From a very young age, we are taught that Islam teaches us that after our parents, our teachers are most deserving of respect.
It must be an extremely confusing time for the Muslim parent in Leytonstone, London. For up to 30 parents may face prosecution for withdrawing their children from school, disobeying the teachers in the school, simply to secure a decent moral upbringing for their children. The school had decided to have a week of lessons about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender history. Part of this was a special adaptation of Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet retitled Romeo and Julian as well as fairytales and stories changed to show men falling in love with men. Rather than filling the heads of impressionable boys and girls with fatuous drivel about gay penguins, schools should be ashamed of the fact that they are sending children out into the world barely able to read, write and add up properly. Muslim children are leaving schools without learning their cultural roots and linguistic skills.
The action was being taken against the parents as part of a policy of ' promoting tolerance'. So why not tolerate parents, who, for sincerely-held reasons, consider their children too young to be taught about gay relationships? This isn't education, its cultural fascism. A record numbers of pupils persistently played truant in 2006-07, with around 272,950 pupils persistently absent in 2007, missing more than 20% of school. We rarely see councils prosecute the parents of these persistent truants. Yet, the parents who removed their children as a one-off to protect their morality may be prosecuted!
If the local council does decide to go through with a prosecution, it would be in line with the government's approach to the Muslim community. Muslims who believe homosexuality is a sin would be labelled as extremists. Liberal totalitarianism is a growing phenomenon in Britain and the west in general but many people will be shocked that the school can override a parent's view of what's appropriate or inappropriate to teach their children.
This latest episode should be a wakeup call for Muslim parents. Muslim parents MUST explain our moral standards to schools and be prepared to take steps to protect our children’s morals and values from a growing agenda to impose liberal values upon them. This is an eye opening for those Muslim parents who keep on sending their children to state schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.
The solution of all the problems facing Muslim children is state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. Those state schools where Muslim children are in majority may be designated as Muslim community schools. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods.
Iftikhar Ahmad
www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
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08/06/2009, 10:45 PM
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GreenBlue
 
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Re: Muslim Children and Sex Education
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 Iftikhar Ahmad wrote: | |
Muslim Children and Sex Education
Muslim parents teach their children to respect their teachers. From a very young age, we are taught that Islam teaches us that after our parents, our teachers are most deserving of respect.
It must be an extremely confusing time for the Muslim parent in Leytonstone, London. For up to 30 parents may face prosecution for withdrawing their children from school, disobeying the teachers in the school, simply to secure a decent moral upbringing for their children. The school had decided to have a week of lessons about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender history. Part of this was a special adaptation of Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet retitled Romeo and Julian as well as fairytales and stories changed to show men falling in love with men. Rather than filling the heads of impressionable boys and girls with fatuous drivel about gay penguins, schools should be ashamed of the fact that they are sending children out into the world barely able to read, write and add up properly. Muslim children are leaving schools without learning their cultural roots and linguistic skills.
The action was being taken against the parents as part of a policy of ' promoting tolerance'. So why not tolerate parents, who, for sincerely-held reasons, consider their children too young to be taught about gay relationships? This isn't education, its cultural fascism. A record numbers of pupils persistently played truant in 2006-07, with around 272,950 pupils persistently absent in 2007, missing more than 20% of school. We rarely see councils prosecute the parents of these persistent truants. Yet, the parents who removed their children as a one-off to protect their morality may be prosecuted!
If the local council does decide to go through with a prosecution, it would be in line with the government's approach to the Muslim community. Muslims who believe homosexuality is a sin would be labelled as extremists. Liberal totalitarianism is a growing phenomenon in Britain and the west in general but many people will be shocked that the school can override a parent's view of what's appropriate or inappropriate to teach their children.
This latest episode should be a wakeup call for Muslim parents. Muslim parents MUST explain our moral standards to schools and be prepared to take steps to protect our children’s morals and values from a growing agenda to impose liberal values upon them. This is an eye opening for those Muslim parents who keep on sending their children to state schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.
The solution of all the problems facing Muslim children is state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. Those state schools where Muslim children are in majority may be designated as Muslim community schools. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods.
Iftikhar Ahmad
www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
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Iftikhar Ahmad; think the answer is NO to your muslin education ghetto proposals
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09/06/2009, 6:56 PM
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juliejones
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12/06/2009, 2:50 AM
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slayer
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Iftikhar Does have a small point, which I myself would agree with. Schools forcing the gay affect on young children. Lets face its not normal, or the human race would die out. Its been proven that children are better prepared for life if they have parents of opposite sexes. A mum and a dad......Ifikhar has other ideas which I don't agree with, have your own schools and foot the bill your self Ifikhar or contact the Saudi embassy they might have some spare cash.
The Truth Is Out There
Its Just Finding It, Is A Nightmare
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12/06/2009, 8:11 PM
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Harvs
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I wouldn't call it "forcing the gay effect" as such, rather the schools are making the children aware of a way of life which they may not have come across before, in the hope of preventing them from being intolerant when they're older. What you seem to imply is that the schools are telling children to be homosexuals, which isn't true. What they are doing (I would hope) is making them aware of the different situations people live in, and that there is no problem in living that way, should you so choose. I would also ask where it has been "proven that children are better prepared for life if they have parents of opposite sexes"? Was there an actual study in to this? How do you gauge how well prepared for life a child is?
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12/06/2009, 9:48 PM
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fred
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I don't know much about teachers or teaching methods but I do know that people don't always do what they are taught, and I expect some people will not do what they are told, or think what they are told to think. They may be taught that to drink alcohol is wrong or acceptable, or taught about homosexuality, or that terrorism and cruelty to others is wrong, but will their actions be any different if they are taught by a muslim or a christian or a non believer if they are given a balanced education based on fact.
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14/06/2009, 1:52 AM
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I myself find all these subjects, trendy setting by ageing old fart hippies.A mother and father in a loving relationship is the best message, that children should discover about. Alternative lifestyles is why this country is in a pretty bad way.
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14/06/2009, 12:10 PM
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Iftikhar Ahmad
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Salaam
The demand for state funded Muslim schools is in accordance with the law of the land. Muslim community is not asking for any favour.
Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.
A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny gloabl village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit.
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19/06/2009, 9:34 PM
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fred
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If you don't like it here then why not go to Iran or some other muslim country.
What's keeping you?
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This is a free country with free speech. Nobody has to stay here.
There is no place for one-sided education
Children should be educated so that they are free to believe or not believe.
Fred.
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20/06/2009, 10:28 AM
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GreenBlue
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| Iftikhar Ahmad wrote: | |
Salaam
The demand for state funded Muslim schools is in accordance with the law of the land. Muslim community is not asking for any favour.
Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.
A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny gloabl village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit.
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Iftikhar Ahmad
Please stop this rubbish.
Of course you are asking for favours. Ahmad whats appartied islamic faith education, but excluding "contamination" of Britishness and primacy of English, non beleivers or teachers that are islamic models. All illegal. He has the cheek to demand public money to sponsor this half baked idea.
You want to turn faith schools into Ghetto education via public funded , Madrasahs isolating true beleivers from infidels, isolating children in Britain, from being British, substituting primarilly culture from the Middle East and Northern Africa. Not acceptable in a tolerant integrated and secular Britain. With the hard pressed British tax payer being asked to pay for these Madrasah's; its clearly a non sensical, cloud cuckoo land request for the landfill.
Even in other faith schools such as Catholic schools, they are moving the other way with 60% of teacher being non catholic and accepting non catholic faith pupils.
If children require Urdu or Arabic, this can easily be substituted into an Modern Foreign Language cirrulum taking the place of either one of French, English, German...English always needs to be the prime/first language of British education, not second or non at all under Arabic or Urdu.
No to public funded Madrasahs in Britain.
But you done need to create exclusive Ghetto and Cuckoo islamic schools (paid for by the tax payer) to acheive this. An equation that will never work. We are a free country; if Iftikhar Ahmad and mates wish to try his schools out, he can do it via his own pocket, or freely try another country like Pakistan where his concept will get state sponsorship.
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24/06/2009, 11:52 PM
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slayer
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25/06/2009, 8:48 PM
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Some single parents do a fine job, in raising their children. A friend of mine lost his wife to cancer, two years ago and is doing a grand job.
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30/06/2009, 10:26 PM
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| ironsmad wrote: | I myself find all these subjects, trendy setting by ageing old fart hippies.A mother and father in a loving relationship is the best message, that children should discover about. Alternative lifestyles is why this country is in a pretty bad way.
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Some of the "new" EU members have banned the teaching of gay-life, in schools.Lets hope they ban religion as well.
Gay education ban voted in
We prefer a family model, the traditional family model, but
of course if parents want to teach such propaganda they can, but according to
our constitution, children are under protection,” she said.
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