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15/05/2009, 10:58 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections All over Britain as would be pocket-fillers stand for election, against a backdrop of hate caused by the MP s troughing in the public purse. The would be pocket-fillers realise that gaining support comes at a price. Dumping fortnightly rubbish collections and reverting back to the good old days of once a week collections. Is a vote winner,  people have had enough of flies and smelly gut wrenching stenches omitting from their bins. Weekly waste collections on agenda  The Tories, who run the county council, said they could change this by paying these district or borough councils to roll out weekly food collections for Leicestershire, after recently agreeing a deal for Harborough residents to have this service. A weekly service for all rubbish will also be considered.    Report

16/05/2009, 2:17 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,598 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections  ironsmad wrote: All over Britain as would be pocket-fillers stand for election, against a backdrop of hate caused by the MP s troughing in the public purse. The would be pocket-fillers realise that gaining support comes at a price. Dumping fortnightly rubbish collections and reverting back to the good old days of once a week collections. Is a vote winner,  people have had enough of flies and smelly gut wrenching stenches omitting from their bins. Weekly waste collections on agenda  The Tories, who run the county council, said they could change this by paying these district or borough councils to roll out weekly food collections for Leicestershire, after recently agreeing a deal for Harborough residents to have this service. A weekly service for all rubbish will also be considered. Extra £35/yr on council tax for a wasteful and inefficient weekly rubbish over-service; aint a vote winner. Thats what this loony tune (mad scarmongerin) idea costs you folk in the pocket as council tax payers for an extra hgv compactor vehicle collection round +crew.    Report

17/05/2009, 9:46 AM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections That £35/yr reduction did not apply then, when the pocket-filling nulabour chimps at City Hall rolled out 26 collections. Instead of 52 collections of rubbish. No one buys their scams bluebottle, every one has had enough of pocket -filling chimps of all colours, best of all no one believes any of the crap that spouts from pocket-filling chimps local/central mouths.Rubbish/recycling is a scam, along with the other greatest scam man made global warming. Another pocket-filling man made world wide chimp scheme. YouTube - POUND FORCE - ALAN DUNCAN MP GETS A NEW GARDEN FEATURE    Report

17/05/2009, 1:27 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,598 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections  ironsmad wrote: That £35/yr reduction did not apply then, when the pocket-filling nulabour chimps at City Hall rolled out 26 collections. Instead of 52 collections of rubbish. No one buys their scams bluebottle, every one has had enough of pocket -filling chimps of all colours, best of all no one believes any of the crap that spouts from pocket-filling chimps local/central mouths.Rubbish/recycling is a scam, along with the other greatest scam man made global warming. Another pocket-filling man made world wide chimp scheme. YouTube - POUND FORCE - ALAN DUNCAN MP GETS A NEW GARDEN FEATURE Sorry, Dorreta Cock-Up and Chums are  some big chimpy chumps. Sad lonely bin sniffers Think you've got your Mad figures wrong mad, and wrong with fantisiful weekly wasting collection notions. I agree with you Rubbish is a scam, ;its a producer scam, a scam of lazy slugs producing waste and throw to away over 240l of crap / fortnight...can't be bothered to conserve, recycle or compost stuff. Making me any other pay more. My parents and grandparents didn't chuck out what these slugs do. Ashes yes, food to the pigs yes. Perhaps 1tonne/family; now its up at 2 tonnes+ /family/yr; or 475Kg /head in Norfolk, all with collection,transport and disposal/treatment implication and 30yr PFI subsidized scams/pocket.There is no logical, honest or rationale arguement for another/restored black bin collection..other than led by the misguided OCDs Dorretta. Dorretta Cock-up has only looked at a system that facilitated her myopic habit, to the all around scaled (muliplied by 26+million households nationally) impications/costs/environmental costs of dealing with spiralling billion tonnages of waste locally/regionally/nationally.Doretta's implication are 2x more PFI "out of sight,out of mind"scams. Problem is the borrowing off the books PFI+16% interest rate comes back 5,10,15,30 years. Doretta + mates as truely chumpy chimps who should stick to counting PG tips tea backs. All you are demanding mad is pocket fillers, namely waste companies (lika Veolia..owners of CityUnCare) put on an extra run, changing extra, extra to the City Council, that costs me and other city residents extra crap collection that costs me and other tax payers firstly £35/yr for that delivery plus Currently £38/tonne of crap to Landfill, or if an incinerator £55+/tonne disposal. Councils were responsible when they cut 52 weekly services at £35/collection. This is because the 26 recycling collections are revenue neutral or positive, which effectively cuts total waste bills in half. Mad you are saying double waste collection and disposal costs. Also they put all the recyclables in a proper universal 240l bin, rather than a nonsense part coverage 60l green box; and replaced those awful, awful weekly black bags we had to put out weekly at flats (ripped apart overnight by vermin, cats and foxes), before universal roll out of a better more secure 240l wheely bin system, that only a TRex rat world be able to knaw throu. Nuts boy, not going to happen at the ballet box when voters understand the weekly waster nutters campaign costs more council tax. ie pensioners, folk on benefit or families up the gunnalds with other high bits; all looking for a council tax increase freeze for 1-2 year; not reversion to an added needless service. Lets fix the potholes in the roads first. Weekly wasting,Ain't going to happen. Fully 9/10 replies to the link you gave in the comments section said " What are they on about, we are happy with fortnightly, don't change it!!!!" The only chimps are the Dorrett weekly waste bin nutters (can't do KS3 maths to publically prove any saving, because their are none) ; a minority of lazy black bag scammers who want to gift waste company profiteers £35/tonne, rather than look for waste cost efficiency and prudence. Ain't going to happen! Biggest pocket filling scam is by the oil/energy companies bribing nutty pocket filling professors into fraudulent fiction ....basically because they haven't the ethics, profits first, no credible science against MMGW reality. Its all blah blah sceptic Wacko Cult like drivel, vitriol and nonsense. Its obvious but sad; fraid like Wacko Mad seems taken in as a true fan of mumbo chimpery! !          Report

17/05/2009, 8:07 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections Very funny bluebottle, unfortunately when said chimps of all parties. Knock,knock on on many doors. All are greeted by the multi coloured bins, that have one thing in common; They are an eyesore and hum,Full of nasty bugs and bacteria. Maggots or no maggots is a vote winner!!!!!!!!!.........As no answer to the question I posed; "no reduction in council tax for a reduced service from 52 to 26". Another smoke and mirror trick by local pocket-filling politicians, vote them all out !!!!!!! THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS.    Report

17/05/2009, 10:46 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections An ode for foul smelly bin odour Wheelie Bin, Maggots n NCC My wheelie has got maggots Dont know how they got in I always knot my bags Keep me lid down on me bin It could ave been the bag The one right at the bottom Had a chicken carcass in it After 2 weeks surely rotten! Now the flies they just keep coming Circling round me bin Crawling up the side Trying to crawl in I called the man from NCC To see wot he could do He said that there was nothing And the bin would be emptied when it was due Well I got quite annoyed at this And ranted down the phone I said next time I have maggots mate You can give em a home He said there is no need to be rude I said oh yes there is My wheelie bins got maggots mate And your refuse collection service is *** I said come and empty me wheelie And all will be forgiven He said sir I cannot do that So I guess I’m maggot ridden Bloody council innit! THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS It is quite possible for a complete new generation of flies if you leave the bin for 14 days. http://www.vtaide.com/png/housefly.htm or less if conditions are good, 11 days is perfectly possible. Under the old system, the MAGGOTS would be taken away. Under the new system the FLIES don't get taken away. Seems a pretty important difference to me. MAGGOTS don't breed, FLIES do breed. MAGGOTS don't spread disease, FLIES do. THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS.    VOTE THE POCKET_FILLERS OUT,    Report

17/05/2009, 11:06 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,598 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections  ironsmad wrote: An ode for foul smelly bin odour Wheelie Bin, Maggots n NCC My wheelie has got maggots Dont know how they got in I always knot my bags Keep me lid down on me bin It could ave been the bag The one right at the bottom Had a chicken carcass in it After 2 weeks surely rotten! Now the flies they just keep coming Circling round me bin Crawling up the side Trying to crawl in I called the man from NCC To see wot he could do He said that there was nothing And the bin would be emptied when it was due Well I got quite annoyed at this And ranted down the phone I said next time I have maggots mate You can give em a home He said there is no need to be rude I said oh yes there is My wheelie bins got maggots mate And your refuse collection service is *** I said come and empty me wheelie And all will be forgiven He said sir I cannot do that So I guess I’m maggot ridden Bloody council innit! THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS It is quite possible for a complete new generation of flies if you leave the bin for 14 days. http://www.vtaide.com/png/housefly.htm or less if conditions are good, 11 days is perfectly possible. Under the old system, the MAGGOTS would be taken away. Under the new system the FLIES don't get taken away. Seems a pretty important difference to me. MAGGOTS don't breed, FLIES do breed. MAGGOTS don't spread disease, FLIES do. THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS.    VOTE THE POCKET_FILLERS OUT, Sounds like the paranoia rantings of the Rime of the Ancient MadMaggot. Maggots form in less than 7 days, 3-5 days, so its irrelevant whether 7 or14 days collection. The key is 1) Separate collection of food scraps 2) Lid down on bins so flies don't get access to rubbish Remember that maggots and smells are worse in bins that are washed out , in the drippings, and this is 5 mins after bins are collected, so whether 7 or 14 days collection is irrelevant.    Report

17/05/2009, 11:31 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,598 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections "no reduction in council tax for a reduced service from 52 to 26". This is a ignorant and misleading quote..you fail to mention that CityUncare/Veolia in the deatails of the pre 2004 10 yr Contract, the variation negociated and allowed by Veolia was for new 26x 240l Blue Bin collections. The ignorance is that the City council could not get money back on the CityCare contract without penalty clauses /variations kicking in. This is the honest cost truth that you aren't aware of! For most the recycling change (democratically voted for by all 40 councillors; madmaggot ain't going to change future changes until 2014 when the contracts up) is the greatest vote winner and additional service for resident, at zero extra collection costs. This has enabled vastly more bin capacity to raise recycling (cost neutral) rates from poor 15% up to 40%. The is rubbish tonnage that doesn't have to be be buried or burnt in the first place; because its raw material resource with revenue (closed loop); not rubbish to "away" (end of pipe)    Report

18/05/2009, 12:08 AM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections Bloody council innit! THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS Lets not forget the great public voice of Norwich, was totally ignored by the pocket -filling councilors (Chimps). Spineless chimps being held to ransom by private company bidding to run a service..............Smells like corruption and funny shakes, but they are politicians and that's the norm . Time for a change and vote them out!!!!!!!    Report

18/05/2009, 7:04 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,598 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections  ironsmad wrote: Bloody council innit! THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS Lets not forget the great public voice of Norwich, was totally ignored by the pocket -filling councilors (Chimps). Spineless chimps being held to ransom by private company bidding to run a service..............Smells like corruption and funny shakes, but they are politicians and that's the norm . Time for a change and vote them out!!!!!!! We can vote them out, and in with the English Democrats; but this isn't going to buy out of the Veolia/CityUnCare contract to bring back weekly rubbish wasting collections. This will cost serious cash for the Norwich tax payer prior to 2014, period, as I've explained, provided wholesale figures.    Report

18/05/2009, 8:49 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections  GreenBlue wrote:  ironsmad wrote: Bloody council innit! THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS Lets not forget the great public voice of Norwich, was totally ignored by the pocket -filling councilors (Chimps). Spineless chimps being held to ransom by private company bidding to run a service..............Smells like corruption and funny shakes, but they are politicians and that's the norm . Time for a change and vote them out!!!!!!! We can vote them out, and in with the English Democrats; but this isn't going to buy out of the Veolia/CityUnCare contract to bring back weekly rubbish wasting collections. This will cost serious cash for the Norwich tax payer prior to 2014, period, as I've explained, provided wholesale figures. bluebottle 2010 Citycare conract ends, my old mukka.........Not 2014......Vote the buggers out!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.norwich.gov.uk/webapps/news/news.asp?cid=5494 The contracts have to be put out to tender in accordance with European Competition rules. It is up to contractors, including the current operators at CityCare, to decide whether they wish to bid for some or all of the contracts the council is re-letting. But in 2010 the city council’s current arrangement with its main contractor CityCare, will come to an end. As part of the re-letting of these services, the council is required to put the contracts out to tender and has been seeking the views of its residents to assess how it can best shape and deliver those services in the future. The funny hand shake ,devil worshipers,pocket-fillers can get the hell out of NORWICH!!!!!!!!!    Report

19/05/2009, 2:31 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,598 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections  ironsmad wrote:  GreenBlue wrote:  ironsmad wrote: Bloody council innit! THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS Lets not forget the great public voice of Norwich, was totally ignored by the pocket -filling councilors (Chimps). Spineless chimps being held to ransom by private company bidding to run a service..............Smells like corruption and funny shakes, but they are politicians and that's the norm . Time for a change and vote them out!!!!!!! We can vote them out, and in with the English Democrats; but this isn't going to buy out of the Veolia/CityUnCare contract to bring back weekly rubbish wasting collections. This will cost serious cash for the Norwich tax payer prior to 2014, period, as I've explained, provided wholesale figures. bluebottle 2010 Citycare conract ends, my old mukka.........Not 2014......Vote the buggers out!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.norwich.gov.uk/webapps/news/news.asp?cid=5494 The contracts have to be put out to tender in accordance with European Competition rules. It is up to contractors, including the current operators at CityCare, to decide whether they wish to bid for some or all of the contracts the council is re-letting. But in 2010 the city council’s current arrangement with its main contractor CityCare, will come to an end. As part of the re-letting of these services, the council is required to put the contracts out to tender and has been seeking the views of its residents to assess how it can best shape and deliver those services in the future. The funny hand shake ,devil worshipers,pocket-fillers can get the hell out of NORWICH!!!!!!!!! This is of some temporal consolequense madsweatbox, but doesn't change the fact a weekly rubbish collection alongside existing revenue neutral recycling is going to add to my council and others councilbill (totally unacceptable in the next few years); unless a second contractor can come in by competitively slashing bin collections by 50% (half); unlikely..and poses the question about a resultant increased shoddy low quality bin service. Thing is you can vote councillors out, but not the officers who develop these waste strategies and contracts.    Report

19/05/2009, 9:51 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections Bloody council innit! THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS  GreenBlue wrote: Thing is you can vote councillors out, but not the officers who develop these waste strategies and contracts. The unelected funny hand shakers, make the policy's and the great chimps say nothing. Its just like living in Russia or China, no democracy for the voters of Norwich just officialdom and Stasi  pocket fillers.    Report

20/05/2009, 7:21 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,598 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections  ironsmad wrote: Bloody council innit! THIRD WORLD BRITAIN, BINS HOLD THOUSANDS OF GERMS AND MICRO BACTERIA. SNOT RAGS WAIT TO BE COLLECTED FOR UP TO TWO WEEKS  GreenBlue wrote: Thing is you can vote councillors out, but not the officers who develop these waste strategies and contracts. The unelected funny hand shakers, make the policy's and the great chimps say nothing. Its just like living in Russia or China, no democracy for the voters of Norwich just officialdom and Stasi  pocket fillers. Absolutely, strategies aren't developed by politicans; its specialists called local government officers. They are too alluth to do handshaking..all gets reccommended in pre meetings....officer advice to recommend blah blah..do nothing option...blah blah...Only a few authorities allow the public /groups in to influence policy. In Norwich the Waste Working Party is a closed door group of officers and a select group of councillors..Ramsay, Morrey, Lubbock..Little..and a few others..nod wink.    Report

20/05/2009, 9:43 PM Lynda Joined on 22/03/2004 Norwich Posts 1,515 Re: A vote winner......once a week rubbish collections I do wonder what on earth people, even in this neighbourhood, find to put in their bins each time.    I have the smaller wheelie bins for this area and still find my fortnight's rubbish is lost at the bottom of the bin when I put it in just before collection.     What is all this about flies etc?    I don't have any.    If I have meat bones etc. left over from a meal and it is a while before bin day I store them in the fridge until the evening before collection then put them in with the other rubbish.    Vegetable peelings and fruit peelings/cores go in the compost bin.    Egg shells are crushed and put around plants to deter slugs and snails.   Lynda  Technology is great when it works.    Report

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