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31/03/2009, 1:14 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp  ironsmad wrote:  GreenBlue wrote:  GreenBlue wrote:  ironsmad wrote: This is common sense http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS-cLp1PEGQ&feature=related   MMGW  Scientists 98% versus  Heartland Neo Con freedom Nutty Tank http://www.heartland.org/ + Lindzen cheque book Osterich nuttyness   2% http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McsZ1U20W0M&feature=related   5th Columnist front protecting death chemical corporate interests. Well we know the Tobacco doesn't cause Lung Cancer is a Heartland dead donkeys; like sceptic MMGM nuttiness protecting Exxon/ Mobil/ Chevron blah blah. Lindzen is their paid up choirboy!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute Oil and Tobacco pay for Heartland Inst Climate Change clap trap http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/tobacco-and-oil-pay-for-climate-conference-790474.html Why would baccy company pay for this gig.......claptrap lies The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world". At least the nulabour liars won't have pay out for any new sea defences..........I was just getting used to idea of losing Yarmouth to the sea. Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' - Telegraph  So, Morner's got an axe to grind - he would, he's got a booklet to sell. The Thames barrier is deployed with ever increasing frequency, the Environment Agency are reviewing their coastal flood defence policies in light of increased incidences of coastal flooding and, like it or not, glacial ice melt, on a grand scale in places like Greenland, is happening. What does that tell us mere mortal non-scientists? Something's happening, that's for sure, but exactly what and why? Can we not see some intelligent, balanced articles on the pros and cons of legitimate arguments and stop the 'debunking myths' headline grabbing sceptic claptrap.    Report

31/03/2009, 11:22 PM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Climate Camp That's what the Thames barrier is for.....to be used otherwise another big white elephant. Climate change is normal its people like Gore and prince Charles and the Rothschild's of the world who use climate change as a path of destruction unless we change the way we live, citing CO2 as the baddy . This earth has tolerated far warmer temperature's in the past and the world survived. The doomsday folk always have scare for mankind and if they and many other bods can make vast fortunes and jobs for life,then they have got a winner and a fable they all must maintain. Intermission – a short quiz You have made some observations and calculations, which show that humanity is doomed unless it changes its ways. You have total belief in the accuracy of your predictions. Do you: (a)   Announce your results, but keep your workings secret for fear that someone will criticise them. (b)   Announce you results, but set up a group of companies to make yourself mega-rich on the back of the scare you have created. (c)    Drop everything, including secrecy and profit, and devote yourself to saving the human race.                            Report

01/04/2009, 12:30 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp  ironsmad wrote: That's what the Thames barrier is for.....to be used otherwise another big white elephant. Climate change is normal its people like Gore and prince Charles and the Rothschild's of the world who use climate change as a path of destruction unless we change the way we live, citing CO2 as the baddy . This earth has tolerated far warmer temperature's in the past and the world survived. The doomsday folk always have scare for mankind and if they and many other bods can make vast fortunes and jobs for life,then they have got a winner and a fable they all must maintain. Intermission – a short quiz You have made some observations and calculations, which show that humanity is doomed unless it changes its ways. You have total belief in the accuracy of your predictions. Do you: (a)   Announce your results, but keep your workings secret for fear that someone will criticise them. (b)   Announce you results, but set up a group of companies to make yourself mega-rich on the back of the scare you have created. (c)    Drop everything, including secrecy and profit, and devote yourself to saving the human race.                         "This earth has tolerated far warmer temperature's in the past and the world survived." Yep, but not since the Dinosaurs, also their weren't billions of folks living at sea level in cities during the Age of Dinosaurs, re1-5degrees C temperature rises. Background climate chamge is natural, enhanced MMGW, and its massive rate of warming, going on now on top of the natural process, ain't natural, and ain't explained by the natural (these are going into long term cooling) The Thames barrier has been used 108 times 1982. Massively over its design raise frequency, having 2x rising levels, overtopped in decades, exposing £90bn of City infrastructure. It will be a White Elephant!!!!!!!! Another barrier needed further out in the estuary in a several decades. "When the Thames Barrier was being designed in the 1970s, global average sea levels were rising at about 1.8 millimetres a year and global warming was not seen as a threat, but in the past 15 years the rate has nearly doubled to about 3.1mm a year and many scientists expect it to accelerate still further." http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/sea-levels-rising-too-fast-for-thames-barrier-799303.html    Report

01/04/2009, 1:29 AM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Climate Camp Bluebottle your hockey stick is not up to date How many T.Rex were running around in the medi-warm times, Its the sun stop this silly fable lark. Giving young children and some silly adults nightmares.    Report

01/04/2009, 9:31 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp  ironsmad wrote: Bluebottle your hockey stick is not up to date How many T.Rex were running around in the medi-warm times, Its the sun stop this silly fable lark. Giving young children and some silly adults nightmares. It's not all about the Sun, as previously described ...re Volcanic ash action (Krakatoa) 1883 causing cooling to 1920. Great Agricultural failures of 1885-1900. Now fossil fuel emissions causing warming. Don't  know where you got your wonkey hockey still. Probably a 2nd hand sports shop. No way way the climate near 10C in Europe in 1200-1350; where are the grapes and malaria while the UK was suffering wet years culmernating in the Black Dead across Europe (1348 in London). Total nonsense. No pollen analysis supports a medieval warm period as it supports a Romanic British warm period. Cisterian monks were getting rich from sheep/wool in 1300; not wine and olives The logrithmic chart highlight the real relative temperatures, that the only real warm periods were during the 1st-3rd centuries (Romanic Britain-grapes grown as far north as Yorkshire).thats about it . otherwise we are back geoloically to the Dinosaurs for comparable temps/CO2 episodes as today. The only other comparable geologic period is 0.75-2.5m years (Cromer Forest bed sequence) ago when sea levels were comparable to todays. This is evident in theWeybourne Crag "marine"sequence on North Norfolk coast at slightly below the level as todays sea level. All else are glacial/freshwater sequences, indicating SL and temperatures were geologically lower; the your down to the Chalk; basically dinosaurs. Mad, you can't con folk with phoney stuff.    Report

01/04/2009, 10:12 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp  GreenBlue wrote:  ironsmad wrote: Bluebottle your hockey stick is not up to date How many T.Rex were running around in the medi-warm times, Its the sun stop this silly fable lark. Giving young children and some silly adults nightmares. It's not all about the Sun, as previously described ...re Volcanic ash action (Krakatoa) 1883 causing cooling to 1920. Great Agricultural failures of 1885-1900. Now fossil fuel emissions causing warming. Don't  know where you got your wonkey hockey still. Probably a 2nd hand sports shop. No way way the climate near 10C in Europe in 1200-1350; where are the grapes and malaria while the UK was suffering wet years culmernating in the Black Dead across Europe (1348 in London). Total nonsense. No pollen analysis supports a medieval warm period as it supports a Romanic British warm period. Cisterian monks were getting rich from sheep/wool in 1300; not wine and olives The logrithmic chart highlight the real relative temperatures, that the only real warm periods were during the 1st-3rd centuries (Romanic Britain-grapes grown as far north as Yorkshire).thats about it . otherwise we are back geoloically to the Dinosaurs for comparable temps/CO2 episodes as today. The only other comparable geologic period is 0.75-2.5m years (Cromer Forest bed sequence) ago when sea levels were comparable to todays. This is evident in theWeybourne Crag "marine"sequence on North Norfolk coast at slightly below the level as todays sea level. All else are glacial/freshwater sequences, indicating SL and temperatures were geologically lower; the your down to the Chalk; basically dinosaurs. Mad, you can't con folk with phoney stuff. Nothing special between 1100-1350    Report

01/04/2009, 10:16 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp  GreenBlue wrote:  GreenBlue wrote:  ironsmad wrote: Bluebottle your hockey stick is not up to date How many T.Rex were running around in the medi-warm times, Its the sun stop this silly fable lark. Giving young children and some silly adults nightmares. It's not all about the Sun, as previously described ...re Volcanic ash action (Krakatoa) 1883 causing cooling to 1920. Great Agricultural failures of 1885-1900. Now fossil fuel emissions causing warming. Don't  know where you got your wonkey hockey still. Probably a 2nd hand sports shop. No way way the climate near 10C in Europe in 1200-1350; where are the grapes and malaria while the UK was suffering wet years culmernating in the Black Dead across Europe (1348 in London). Total nonsense. No pollen analysis supports a medieval warm period as it supports a Romanic British warm period. Cisterian monks were getting rich from sheep/wool in 1300; not wine and olives The logrithmic chart highlight the real relative temperatures, that the only real warm periods were during the 1st-3rd centuries (Romanic Britain-grapes grown as far north as Yorkshire).thats about it . otherwise we are back geoloically to the Dinosaurs for comparable temps/CO2 episodes as today. The only other comparable geologic period is 0.75-2.5m years (Cromer Forest bed sequence) ago when sea levels were comparable to todays. This is evident in theWeybourne Crag "marine"sequence on North Norfolk coast at slightly below the level as todays sea level. All else are glacial/freshwater sequences, indicating SL and temperatures were geologically lower; the your down to the Chalk; basically dinosaurs. Mad, you can't con folk with phoney stuff. Nothing special between 1100-1350 Comparable Med Warm Period hogwash= Usual Osterich fart    Report

02/04/2009, 12:46 AM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Climate Camp  GreenBlue wrote:  GreenBlue wrote:  GreenBlue wrote:  ironsmad wrote: Bluebottle your hockey stick is not up to date How many T.Rex were running around in the medi-warm times, Its the sun stop this silly fable lark. Giving young children and some silly adults nightmares. It's not all about the Sun, as previously described ...re Volcanic ash action (Krakatoa) 1883 causing cooling to 1920. Great Agricultural failures of 1885-1900. Now fossil fuel emissions causing warming. Don't  know where you got your wonkey hockey still. Probably a 2nd hand sports shop. No way way the climate near 10C in Europe in 1200-1350; where are the grapes and malaria while the UK was suffering wet years culmernating in the Black Dead across Europe (1348 in London). Total nonsense. No pollen analysis supports a medieval warm period as it supports a Romanic British warm period. Cisterian monks were getting rich from sheep/wool in 1300; not wine and olives The logrithmic chart highlight the real relative temperatures, that the only real warm periods were during the 1st-3rd centuries (Romanic Britain-grapes grown as far north as Yorkshire).thats about it . otherwise we are back geoloically to the Dinosaurs for comparable temps/CO2 episodes as today. The only other comparable geologic period is 0.75-2.5m years (Cromer Forest bed sequence) ago when sea levels were comparable to todays. This is evident in theWeybourne Crag "marine"sequence on North Norfolk coast at slightly below the level as todays sea level. All else are glacial/freshwater sequences, indicating SL and temperatures were geologically lower; the your down to the Chalk; basically dinosaurs. Mad, you can't con folk with phoney stuff. Nothing special between 1100-1350 Comparable Med Warm Period hogwash= Usual Osterich fart Hogwash tree rings/growth. Secrecy In the security of powerful patronage some of the new brigade began to think that they were above not only the procedures of science, but of all other academic disciplines as well. In the case of the notorious Hockey Stick, for example, they claimed that knowledge from history, art, literature, archaeology etc. was all wrong and that their computer manipulation of such tenuous data as tree rings established that the Little Ice Age and the Mediaeval Warm Period never happened. The most powerful patrons of all, the UN, seized on the results and made them the main feature of one of their apocalyptic IPCC reports on the coming climate disaster. One of the first tests of any scientific work is to pose the question “Can the results be reproduced?” The Hockey team and the other computer nerds behind the doom-laden predictions were outraged at the suggestion that they should make public their computations and results, which had in fact been obtained with generous public funding. This stance was supported by the political establishment and, though it might work in a secretive society like the UK , this did not go down well in the more open USA . Anyway, to cut a long story short, thanks largely to the untiring persistence of two Canadians, the Hockey Stick was broken. The critics were subjected to a torrent of vilification and derision, but eventually after a review by the highest statistical authority in the USA , they were vindicated. The UN simply dropped the Hockey Stick as though it had never happened and carried on with other forms of propaganda. British “researchers” into global warming refused to yield up their calculations to scrutiny on the grounds that “You only want to criticise it.” Contrast this with a real scientist, Albert Einstein, who passed all his calculations onto Eddington, so that they latter could devise a critical test, that might have damned the theory, but in the end spectacularly did not. What have they got to hide?    Report

02/04/2009, 2:19 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp  ironsmad wrote:  GreenBlue wrote:  GreenBlue wrote:  GreenBlue wrote:  ironsmad wrote: Bluebottle your hockey stick is not up to date How many T.Rex were running around in the medi-warm times, Its the sun stop this silly fable lark. Giving young children and some silly adults nightmares. It's not all about the Sun, as previously described ...re Volcanic ash action (Krakatoa) 1883 causing cooling to 1920. Great Agricultural failures of 1885-1900. Now fossil fuel emissions causing warming. Don't  know where you got your wonkey hockey still. Probably a 2nd hand sports shop. No way way the climate near 10C in Europe in 1200-1350; where are the grapes and malaria while the UK was suffering wet years culmernating in the Black Dead across Europe (1348 in London). Total nonsense. No pollen analysis supports a medieval warm period as it supports a Romanic British warm period. Cisterian monks were getting rich from sheep/wool in 1300; not wine and olives The logrithmic chart highlight the real relative temperatures, that the only real warm periods were during the 1st-3rd centuries (Romanic Britain-grapes grown as far north as Yorkshire).thats about it . otherwise we are back geoloically to the Dinosaurs for comparable temps/CO2 episodes as today. The only other comparable geologic period is 0.75-2.5m years (Cromer Forest bed sequence) ago when sea levels were comparable to todays. This is evident in theWeybourne Crag "marine"sequence on North Norfolk coast at slightly below the level as todays sea level. All else are glacial/freshwater sequences, indicating SL and temperatures were geologically lower; the your down to the Chalk; basically dinosaurs. Mad, you can't con folk with phoney stuff. Nothing special between 1100-1350 Comparable Med Warm Period hogwash= Usual Osterich fart Hogwash tree rings/growth. Secrecy In the security of powerful patronage some of the new brigade began to think that they were above not only the procedures of science, but of all other academic disciplines as well. In the case of the notorious Hockey Stick, for example, they claimed that knowledge from history, art, literature, archaeology etc. was all wrong and that their computer manipulation of such tenuous data as tree rings established that the Little Ice Age and the Mediaeval Warm Period never happened. The most powerful patrons of all, the UN, seized on the results and made them the main feature of one of their apocalyptic IPCC reports on the coming climate disaster. One of the first tests of any scientific work is to pose the question “Can the results be reproduced?” The Hockey team and the other computer nerds behind the doom-laden predictions were outraged at the suggestion that they should make public their computations and results, which had in fact been obtained with generous public funding. This stance was supported by the political establishment and, though it might work in a secretive society like the UK , this did not go down well in the more open USA . Anyway, to cut a long story short, thanks largely to the untiring persistence of two Canadians, the Hockey Stick was broken. The critics were subjected to a torrent of vilification and derision, but eventually after a review by the highest statistical authority in the USA , they were vindicated. The UN simply dropped the Hockey Stick as though it had never happened and carried on with other forms of propaganda. British “researchers” into global warming refused to yield up their calculations to scrutiny on the grounds that “You only want to criticise it.” Contrast this with a real scientist, Albert Einstein, who passed all his calculations onto Eddington, so that they latter could devise a critical test, that might have damned the theory, but in the end spectacularly did not. What have they got to hide? Unlike sceptics, fortunately boreholes, trees, corals, ocean cores, glaciers DON'T LIE. SCEPTICS ARE PAID BY OIL FUNDS TO SPEAK GARBAGE AND SULLY SCIENCE. Its thats simple!!!!! Good old Bristlecombes, English Oaks , English yews that won Agincourt. They in their numbers, time on time, regionally, globally don't lie. Sceptics are free to repeat the same data capture and get the same results and hockey stick.    Report

04/04/2009, 12:33 AM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Climate Camp Inconvenient fable spreaders.......! http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/032709_informationnote.pdf The new way of making bundles of cash and spreading serfdom.Builderberg and Al the slave masters/banksters. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=glenn+beck+and+global+warming&emb=0&aq=f#    Report

04/04/2009, 6:09 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp  ironsmad wrote: Inconvenient fable spreaders.......! http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/032709_informationnote.pdf The new way of making bundles of cash and spreading serfdom.Builderberg and Al the slave masters/banksters. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=glenn+beck+and+global+warming&emb=0&aq=f#   Sounds like drunken dot to dot skeptic tommy rot to me mad,  banksters don't care a fig leaf about climate change or Al Gore's inconvenient truth, other than that it might crash their champagne parties.    Report

04/04/2009, 9:51 PM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp Oh Well. Prime time showing Channel 4, 9.30pm today; The Inconvenient Truth ...Channel 4 making ammends for that discredited phoney science swindle stunt of 2 years ago. Sceptics will be pulling their feather out, more sniffing and  farting BS.    Report

05/04/2009, 12:22 AM Hide the decline Joined on 12/03/2008 Posts 1,356 Re: Climate Camp  GreenBlue wrote: Oh Well. Prime time showing Channel 4, 9.30pm today; The Inconvenient Truth ...Channel 4 making ammends for that discredited phoney science swindle stunt of 2 years ago. Sceptics will be pulling their feather out, more sniffing and  farting BS. Alas hollywood fabled tales was missed for MoTD.....monsters v aliens is far better than over the hedge (fund) Gore!!!!!!!!    Report

05/04/2009, 9:32 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp Wilkins Ice Shell collapses. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7984054.stm Not too long before the Ross Ice Shelf and Ronne Ice Shelf goes    Report

05/04/2009, 9:48 AM GreenBlue Joined on 01/06/2008 Posts 1,602 Re: Climate Camp  GreenBlue wrote: Wilkins Ice Shell collapses. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7984054.stm Not too long before the Ross Ice Shelf and Ronne Ice Shelf goes One might expect LARSEN C/ KGIV/ RIISER/LARSEN/SHACKLETON to go in quick sequence http://nsidc.org/sotc/iceshelves.html    Report

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