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 30/06/2009, 1:47 PM
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wilstonegreen
 
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The problem is clear and made up of two factors.
1) Local people have very short memories; they look at the problems with Labour and they assume that another party would do a better job. They don’t really care which party, it just a case of popularity and the Tories are the second in line. Local people don’t want to think too much, (for reasons why; see factor 2.) People have forgotten the crimes of the Tories and all the good that Labour have done for the country. Lifting all children out of poverty, demolishing the old elitist Careers Service and replacing it with the ‘equality driven’ Connextions Service, New Deal and Working Families Tax Credits. Local people are taking all these things for granted because either they don’t use them or they are too young to remember when they did not exist.
2) Local people are not very clever. It’s a sad reality but due to a mix of inbreeding and weak genes. In line with geographical evolution Norwich would be a toaster which only cooks one side of your bread.
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30/06/2009, 5:31 PM
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Re: Tory Voters in Norwich
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 wilstonegreen wrote: |
The problem is clear and made up of two factors.
1) Local people have very short memories; they look at the problems with Labour and they assume that another party would do a better job. They don’t really care which party, it just a case of popularity and the Tories are the second in line. Local people don’t want to think too much, (for reasons why; see factor 2.) People have forgotten the crimes of the Tories and all the good that Labour have done for the country. Lifting all children out of poverty, demolishing the old elitist Careers Service and replacing it with the ‘equality driven’ Connextions Service, New Deal and Working Families Tax Credits. Local people are taking all these things for granted because either they don’t use them or they are too young to remember when they did not exist.
2) Local people are not very clever. It’s a sad reality but due to a mix of inbreeding and weak genes. In line with geographical evolution Norwich would be a toaster which only cooks one side of your bread. |
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Local people are not very clever, do you wilstonegreen fall into this"
bracket". Are you the last bastion of nulabour support of inbred
Norwich, not wanting to crush you physicality with my contempt for
such an inadequate grasp nulabour failings. I let the real facts
destroy you and your ludicrous mumblings. Here we go The money has been squanded by this governments ineptitude and short-sightedness.
Brown inherited a massive surplus. He and his cronies have played expensive
grandstanding games internationally to bolster their own ambitions. Unworkable
legislation, unwinnable wars (based on a Blair & Bush lie), invasive systems to monitor
and control the 'free' British people (ID cards - CCTV) - all without benefit
to the good citizens of our once proud country. We cannot even voice our
protests within 1 kilometre of the 'Mother of Parliaments'.
Two million pupils fail to get a decent GCSE under Labour | Mail Online
Nearly 3 million children in poverty in Britain - Telegraph
Labour abandons pledge to halve child poverty by 2010 - Telegraph
Gap between rich and poor grows to record levels, official figures show
Thousands of elderly die because fuel bills too high, MPs' committee says
Britain 'one of the worst places in Europe to grow up'
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30/06/2009, 8:05 PM
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E Nuff
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Re: Tory Voters in Norwich
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Both the labour party and the tories are equally to blame for our broken country, all starting with that terrible women Thatcher then onto the Blair/Brown tory clones.
And as for inbreeding it is hardly likely to happen again, with the country full of immigrants. I wish I did have a short memory, I could then forget this corrupt, greedy, selfish country we have created since the late 70s.
The labour party do not exist. We have two Tory parties.
There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.
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30/06/2009, 9:02 PM
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Re: Tory Voters in Norwich
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| Norton wrote: | | Both the labour party and the tories are equally to blame for our broken country, all starting with that terrible women Thatcher then onto the Blair/Brown tory clones.
And as for inbreeding it is hardly likely to happen again, with the country full of immigrants. I wish I did have a short memory, I could then forget this corrupt, greedy, selfish country we have created since the late 70s.
The labour party do not exist. We have two Tory parties. |
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Poor old Maggie, not been in at the helm of this country..........Since 1990, and yet people like Norton, still blame our greatest leader since Churchill for all of this countries failings. Its to easy and simplistic to lay every thing at her door. Lets cast our mind back to the reign of sunny Jim and Healey . The dead not getting buried, power cuts, rubbish 10ft deep piled up against the local dump walls. Britain was Europe's poor man with every thing in black and white. The Labour party died with John Smith, the rest is living history of pocket filling and destiny building of nulabour cronies.
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30/06/2009, 9:48 PM
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GreenBlue
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Re: Tory Voters in Norwich
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| ironsmad wrote: | | Norton wrote: | | Both the labour party and the tories are equally to blame for our broken country, all starting with that terrible women Thatcher then onto the Blair/Brown tory clones. And as for inbreeding it is hardly likely to happen again, with the country full of immigrants. I wish I did have a short memory, I could then forget this corrupt, greedy, selfish country we have created since the late 70s. The labour party do not exist. We have two Tory parties. |
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Poor old Maggie, not been in at the helm of this country..........Since 1990, and yet people like Norton, still blame our greatest leader since Churchill for all of this countries failings. Its to easy and simplistic to lay every thing at her door. Lets cast our mind back to the reign of sunny Jim and Healey . The dead not getting buried, power cuts, rubbish 10ft deep piled up against the local dump walls. Britain was Europe's poor man with every thing in black and white. The Labour party died with John Smith, the rest is living history of pocket filling and destiny building of nulabour cronies.
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Maggie madethecorrect call on the Falklands/Belgrano;but otherwise she was an old bag
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30/06/2009, 10:09 PM
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Re: Tory Voters in Norwich
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| GreenBlue wrote: | | ironsmad wrote: | | Norton wrote: | | Both the labour party and the tories are equally to blame for our broken country, all starting with that terrible women Thatcher then onto the Blair/Brown tory clones. And as for inbreeding it is hardly likely to happen again, with the country full of immigrants. I wish I did have a short memory, I could then forget this corrupt, greedy, selfish country we have created since the late 70s. The labour party do not exist. We have two Tory parties. |
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Poor old Maggie, not been in at the helm of this country..........Since 1990, and yet people like Norton, still blame our greatest leader since Churchill for all of this countries failings. Its to easy and simplistic to lay every thing at her door. Lets cast our mind back to the reign of sunny Jim and Healey . The dead not getting buried, power cuts, rubbish 10ft deep piled up against the local dump walls. Britain was Europe's poor man with every thing in black and white. The Labour party died with John Smith, the rest is living history of pocket filling and destiny building of nulabour cronies.
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Maggie madethecorrect call on the Falklands/Belgrano;but otherwise she was an old bag |
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Bluebottle with been down this road before, the great lady had her bad times/tough times. 6 month wait to go the phone 1979, a black and white world.
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01/07/2009, 5:34 AM
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GreenBlue
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Re: Tory Voters in Norwich
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| ironsmad wrote: | | GreenBlue wrote: |
| ironsmad wrote: | | Norton wrote: | | Both the labour party and the tories are equally to blame for our broken country, all starting with that terrible women Thatcher then onto the Blair/Brown tory clones. And as for inbreeding it is hardly likely to happen again, with the country full of immigrants. I wish I did have a short memory, I could then forget this corrupt, greedy, selfish country we have created since the late 70s. The labour party do not exist. We have two Tory parties. |
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Poor old Maggie, not been in at the helm of this country..........Since 1990, and yet people like Norton, still blame our greatest leader since Churchill for all of this countries failings. Its to easy and simplistic to lay every thing at her door. Lets cast our mind back to the reign of sunny Jim and Healey . The dead not getting buried, power cuts, rubbish 10ft deep piled up against the local dump walls. Britain was Europe's poor man with every thing in black and white. The Labour party died with John Smith, the rest is living history of pocket filling and destiny building of nulabour cronies.
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Maggie madethecorrect call on the Falklands/Belgrano;but otherwise she was an old bag
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Bluebottle with been down this road before, the great lady had her bad times/tough times. 6 month wait to go the phone 1979, a black and white world.
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Her only g8 moment was 1982; thats about it....like Brown she didn't know when to go, so she looked pathetic in the end with her sobbin hubris. There again I was celebrating at the time with a pint and cigar.
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01/07/2009, 10:27 PM
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E Nuff
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Re: Tory Voters in Norwich
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Thatcher Day
Since we have Guy Fawkes day because Fawkes ATTEMPTED to destroy Parliament (Penny for the Guy, mate!) and we burn effigies of Fawkes, should we not have a Margaret Thatcher day for SUCCEEDING in destroying Parliament, well credibility at least (Penny for the Thatcher, mate!) and we could throw Margaret on the bonfire.
Perhars that could apply to Tony Blair and the tory clone party too.
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01/07/2009, 11:05 PM
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| Norton wrote: | | Thatcher Day
Since we have Guy Fawkes day because Fawkes ATTEMPTED to destroy Parliament (Penny for the Guy, mate!) and we burn effigies of Fawkes, should we not have a Margaret Thatcher day for SUCCEEDING in destroying Parliament, well credibility at least (Penny for the Thatcher, mate!) and we could throw Margaret on the bonfire.
Perhars that could apply to Tony Blair and the tory clone party too. |
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Its the recent bunch of mothers, that have destroyed/tainted parliament........or did the Iron Lady sigh off, their expenses for them ?
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04/07/2009, 10:28 PM
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04/07/2009, 10:33 PM
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GreenBlue
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| ironsmad wrote: | | GreenBlue wrote: |
| ironsmad wrote: | | Norton wrote: | | Thatcher Day Since we have Guy Fawkes day because Fawkes ATTEMPTED to destroy Parliament (Penny for the Guy, mate!) and we burn effigies of Fawkes, should we not have a Margaret Thatcher day for SUCCEEDING in destroying Parliament, well credibility at least (Penny for the Thatcher, mate!) and we could throw Margaret on the bonfire. Perhars that could apply to Tony Blair and the tory clone party too. |
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Thatcherite policies are not the way forward.
Its the recent bunch of mothers, that have destroyed/tainted parliament........or did the Iron Lady sigh off, their expenses for them ?
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Diminishing Maggie is wrong, a strong willed leader is what this country is missing...............What policies should the next government have?
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Strong leader with policies that don't take cash from the old, hard working and gives it to bankers/spives; Thatcher was no better than Brown
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04/07/2009, 11:57 PM
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| GreenBlue wrote: | | ironsmad wrote: | | GreenBlue wrote: |
| ironsmad wrote: | | Norton wrote: | | Thatcher Day Since we have Guy Fawkes day because Fawkes ATTEMPTED to destroy Parliament (Penny for the Guy, mate!) and we burn effigies of Fawkes, should we not have a Margaret Thatcher day for SUCCEEDING in destroying Parliament, well credibility at least (Penny for the Thatcher, mate!) and we could throw Margaret on the bonfire. Perhars that could apply to Tony Blair and the tory clone party too. |
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Thatcherite policies are not the way forward.
Its the recent bunch of mothers, that have destroyed/tainted parliament........or did the Iron Lady sigh off, their expenses for them ?
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Diminishing Maggie is wrong, a strong willed leader is what this country is missing...............What policies should the next government have?
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Strong leader with policies that don't take cash from the old, hard working and gives it to bankers/spives; Thatcher was no better than Brown |
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So bluebottle you rather we stayed in sunny Jim's black n white days. Did you not carpet bagged, buy in to Sid and flow with the rest of us. Who wanted a better standard of living,than our parents.
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05/07/2009, 12:13 AM
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GreenBlue
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| ironsmad wrote: | | GreenBlue wrote: | | ironsmad wrote: | | GreenBlue wrote: |
| ironsmad wrote: | | Norton wrote: | | Thatcher Day Since we have Guy Fawkes day because Fawkes ATTEMPTED to destroy Parliament (Penny for the Guy, mate!) and we burn effigies of Fawkes, should we not have a Margaret Thatcher day for SUCCEEDING in destroying Parliament, well credibility at least (Penny for the Thatcher, mate!) and we could throw Margaret on the bonfire. Perhars that could apply to Tony Blair and the tory clone party too. |
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Thatcherite policies are not the way forward.
Its the recent bunch of mothers, that have destroyed/tainted parliament........or did the Iron Lady sigh off, their expenses for them ?
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Diminishing Maggie is wrong, a strong willed leader is what this country is missing...............What policies should the next government have?
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Strong leader with policies that don't take cash from the old, hard working and gives it to bankers/spives; Thatcher was no better than Brown
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So bluebottle you rather we stayed in sunny Jim's black n white days. Did you not carpet bagged, buy in to Sid and flow with the rest of us. Who wanted a better standard of living,than our parents.
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Nope, too busy serving in the forces at the front line watching silly poitican wrap themselves in the flag in Cheftain tanks.Jim couldn't take tough decision; Maggie avoided taking tough decisions on the pocket fillers in the city; instead kicking the working folk inthe teeth. Maggie cut the armed forces with "Options to get a job in civy street" using alan whicker lookalike henchman Tom King. Sorry Mad, few kind words for Maggie!
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05/07/2009, 12:17 AM
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GreenBlue
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| GreenBlue wrote: | | ironsmad wrote: | | GreenBlue wrote: | | ironsmad wrote: | | GreenBlue wrote: |
| ironsmad wrote: | | Norton wrote: | | Thatcher Day Since we have Guy Fawkes day because Fawkes ATTEMPTED to destroy Parliament (Penny for the Guy, mate!) and we burn effigies of Fawkes, should we not have a Margaret Thatcher day for SUCCEEDING in destroying Parliament, well credibility at least (Penny for the Thatcher, mate!) and we could throw Margaret on the bonfire. Perhars that could apply to Tony Blair and the tory clone party too. |
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Thatcherite policies are not the way forward.
Its the recent bunch of mothers, that have destroyed/tainted parliament........or did the Iron Lady sigh off, their expenses for them ?
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Diminishing Maggie is wrong, a strong willed leader is what this country is missing...............What policies should the next government have?
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Strong leader with policies that don't take cash from the old, hard working and gives it to bankers/spives; Thatcher was no better than Brown
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So bluebottle you rather we stayed in sunny Jim's black n white days. Did you not carpet bagged, buy in to Sid and flow with the rest of us. Who wanted a better standard of living,than our parents.
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Nope, too busy serving in the forces at the front line watching silly poitican wrap themselves in the flag in Cheftain tanks.Jim couldn't take tough decision; Maggie avoided taking tough decisions on the pocket fillers in the city; instead kicking the working folk inthe teeth. Maggie cut the armed forces with "Options to get a job in civy street" using alan whicker lookalike henchman Tom King. Sorry Mad, few kind words for Maggie!
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Also Maggie cut the milk ration for 4-5year kids at infant school; then the Rum and Baccy ration in the RN; it goes deep with Maggie and myself. It was the small things; she was plain mean n stingy.
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